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Subject: [Leica] Re: Scanning software bum-out
From: nathan.wajsman at planet.nl (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Wed Jan 26 21:30:08 2005
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I do not think the Vuescan interface is any worse than the Nikon Scan 
interface. Both leave something to be desired. But the bottom line is 
that Vuescan gives me far better results than the software that came 
bundled with my Nikon LS-2000 scanner (bought 7 years ago) or the Epson 
2450 flatbed (bought 2 or 3 years ago). It is also nice to have just one 
  piece of software for both scanners. And no, I do not spend hours 
dicking around with the settings; in fact, Vuescan remembers the 
settings last used, and since I scan mostly the same kind of film every 
time--Tri-X--I usually only have to adjust the brightness to make sure 
the histogram is not clipped and select the focus point. Nothing could 
be easier.

Nathan

Adam Bridge wrote:

> He should hire someone who has a clue about how to design human interfaces.
> 
> Software that works, but which is terribly documented and whose GUI is
> poorly designed is crap.
> 
> Is it worth $40? Well sure - as long as you have no expectations about
> its usefulness and want to spend hours dicking around with it while
> you learn.
> 
> That's just WRONG. And so I stand by my statement: he's clueless
> because with a bit of investment that he clearly doesn't want to make
> he could have a killer product - but he doesn't either because he's
> too lazy or doesn't give a damn about making something genuinely
> useful. Instead he's satisfied ot make something geeky and
> inaccessible.
> 
> Yes, it works. No, it's not elegant or even pretty. Parts of it are
> incomprehenisble. And it's has TERRIBLE documentation.
> 
> These are crimes of software publication.
> 
> Accept crap and you'll get  more crap. It's worked for Microsoft for years.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:04:22 -0600, Eric <ericm@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>>Adam:
>>
>>
>>>The VueScan interface is utter and complete CRAP. It might as well
>>>have been designed in the orient. It's utter piss-poor documentation,
>>>lousy concept of human interface, and dismal overall design makes a
>>>product that might as well be the Leica O. It's odd that people who
>>>use cameras with simple and elegant designs find VueScan acceptable.
>>>
>>>I have it for emergancies but it's what happens when someone with no
>>>clue makes software.
>>>
>>>And while the screen looks a little better the workflow stinks.
>>>
>>>Yeah, I truly hate this product -  it's the modern incarnation of the
>>>VCR interface.
>>
>>I think it's unfair to say this is what happens when someone with no clue
>>makes software.  Perhaps it would be fair to say it doesn't have the
>>friendliest user interface.
>>
>>That a single piece of software runs on multiple platforms and supports
>>many, many different kinds of scanners and its author keeps improving the
>>software would lead me to believe that Ed does have a clue about making
>>software.
>>
>>I love Vuescan's workflow.  I hardly ever have to tweak any settings.  I've
>>made the changes I need to, and I just scan away.  The interface is
>>primitive, but I don't need a dancing paperclip to guide me through.  It's
>>one step above a command line interface, and that's fine by me.  Yes, it 
>>has
>>a very steep learning curve, and the documentation is sparse.  I followed
>>the "advanced workflow" that Ed did document, and I get much better results
>>than I did with the software that came with my scanner.
>>
>>Best $40 I've spent related to photography.  I think the price has 
>>increased
>>lately, though.
>>
>>--
>>Eric
>>http://canid.com/
>>
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