Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]-----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of animal Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:47 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital back Just curious did you receive the 3876x2580 28.6 meg version ? simon > Well, Feli - > 1. I don't see color fringing around thin tree branches or visible > moir? problems in the $240 throwaway digital p&S I bought my wife for > Christmas two years ago. And I certainly don't see them in the images > I get from my E-1 - or the images I got from my E20 2. What's the big > deal about being able to adjust sharpening level in camera? I'll save > you having to reply - there is none. All the major cameras offer it > -as to many of the point and shoots. > > 3. Highlights not being clipped is a feature of exposing properly, not > some magic in the firmware. > > 4. I should hope there's no noise in the blacks at 100 iso, or at 400 > for that matter if properly exposed. > > The bottom line is that this is a crappy tourist snapshot that could > have been taken by any mediocre point and shoot set at a low iso, if > properly exposed. And to top it off, it's a basically evenly lit > scene, which makes the whole thing even easier to pull off. > > The irony, of course, is that if this was an image being offered by > the Epson folks as an example of the magic worked by the RD-1, all the > Leicaholics on the list would be raising precisely the points I'm > raising. > > I'm not saying that this is a bad digital image - I'm just saying that > it neither proves, nor even hints at, virtually anything. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of feli > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:51 PM > To: Leica Users Group; lug@leica-users.org > Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital back > > > > >1 - Pardon my obvious lack of understanding, but what is it that > >distinguishes this tourist snap shot from any other tourist snap shot > >taken with any 3mgp digital point and shoot? > > A couple of things: > > a) I don't see any color fringing around the thin tree branches and > there are no visible moire problems. (look at the shot with the > wreath. Dark green leaves against a white background) Given the fact > that Leica decided not to use a AA filter (or a waek one) infront of > the chip this is a good thing. Kodak didn't use one on their SLR and > has big problems with that. > > b) Looks like you can turn of the sharpen for the jpegs. Also a good > thing. Not sure if this was a in camera Jpeg conversion, but I don't > see any compression artifacts. > > c) Highlights don't look clipped. I don't see any holes or grey > blothces in the specular component. Roll off into the highlights looks > good. > > d) I'm guessing this is 100asa, because I don't really see any noise > in the blacks. > > e) Unless this was post balanced, it appears that white balance works > well. Colors are clean, white and black neutral. > > > >2 - Perhaps there's something wrong with my computer or browser, but > >when I right-click on the image, in order to get information about it > >and save it to my desktop as a tiff, nothing comes up, leading me to > >believe that Leica doesn't want this image downloaded and examined > >carefully in Photoshop. Am I missing something here? B.D. > > You could examine it all you want in Photoshop, but since they are > either JPEG or TIFF you really won't learn a whole lot more than > looking at it in your browser. If you really wanted to dig into it, it > would have to be a RAW file. > > > > Feli > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > --------------- > Feli di Giorgio * feli2@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information