Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/24

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Subject: [Leica] Digital back
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Wed Nov 24 15:45:13 2004
References: <04d101c4d258$f1807860$6401a8c0@ccapr.com>

Just curious did you receive the
3876x2580  28.6 meg version ?

simon


> Well, Feli -
> 1. I don't see color fringing around thin tree branches or visible moir?
> problems in the $240 throwaway digital p&S I bought my wife for
> Christmas two years ago. And I certainly don't see them in the images I
> get from my E-1 - or the images I got from my E20
> 2. What's the big deal about being able to adjust sharpening level in
> camera? I'll save you having to reply - there is none. All the major
> cameras offer it -as to many of the point and shoots.
>
> 3. Highlights not being clipped is a feature of exposing properly, not
> some magic in the firmware.
>
> 4. I should hope there's no noise in the blacks at 100 iso, or at 400
> for that matter if properly exposed.
>
> The bottom line is that this is a crappy tourist snapshot that could
> have been taken by any mediocre point and shoot set at a low iso, if
> properly exposed. And to top it off, it's a basically evenly lit scene,
> which makes the whole thing even easier to pull off.
>
> The irony, of course, is that if this was an image being offered by the
> Epson folks as an example of the magic worked by the RD-1, all the
> Leicaholics on the list would be raising precisely the points I'm
> raising.
>
> I'm not saying that this is a bad digital image - I'm just saying that
> it neither proves, nor even hints at, virtually anything.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> feli
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:51 PM
> To: Leica Users Group; lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital back
>
>
>
> >1 - Pardon my obvious lack of understanding, but what is it that
> >distinguishes this tourist snap shot from any other tourist snap shot
> >taken with any 3mgp digital point and shoot?
>
> A couple of things:
>
> a) I don't see any color fringing around the thin tree branches and
> there are no visible moire problems. (look at the shot with the wreath.
> Dark green leaves against a white background) Given the fact that Leica
> decided not to use a AA filter (or a waek one) infront of the chip this
> is a good thing. Kodak didn't use one on their SLR and has big problems
> with that.
>
> b) Looks like you can turn of the sharpen for the jpegs. Also a good
> thing. Not sure if this was a in camera Jpeg conversion, but I don't see
> any compression artifacts.
>
> c) Highlights don't look clipped. I don't see any holes or grey blothces
> in the specular component. Roll off into the highlights looks good.
>
> d) I'm guessing this is 100asa, because I don't really see any noise in
> the blacks.
>
> e) Unless this was post balanced, it appears that white balance works
> well. Colors are clean, white and black neutral.
>
>
> >2 - Perhaps there's something wrong with my computer or browser, but
> >when I right-click on the image, in order to get information about it
> >and save it to my desktop as a tiff, nothing comes up, leading me to
> >believe that Leica doesn't want this image downloaded and examined
> >carefully in Photoshop. Am I missing something here? B.D.
>
> You could examine it all you want in Photoshop, but since they are
> either JPEG or TIFF you really won't learn a whole lot more than looking
> at it in your browser. If you really wanted to dig into it, it would
> have to be a RAW file.
>
>
>
> Feli
>
>
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