Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/23

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Nikon's profits tripled
From: jonathan at openhealth.org (Jonathan Borden)
Date: Tue Nov 23 18:53:03 2004
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Rick Dykstra wrote:

> Hi Alistair.  You've posed exactly the question I've asked of Leica, 
> though no response yet.
>
> The lab I use does high end scans (though not the highest - were not 
> talking drum scans here) which are 6144 x 4096 pixels and around 75 to 
> 100 MB in size (depending on the variety of colours I suppose).

I expect that is an 8 bit scan. For reference when I scan at 5400 and 
16 bits/channel you get roughly a 200 MB scan (If I had it over to do, 
I'd have bought the Nikon 5000 because the Minolta 5400 while giving 
good scans, is much slower).

>  I get these printed to 20 x 30 inch.  The DMR sensor is 3872 x 2576.  
> So how can this sensor make images reproduced at 20 x 30 in of the 
> same clarity as film scanned to 6144 x 4096?  And I could get these 
> trannies drum scanned to even higher standards.

Because of the film grain you need to scan at a considerably higher 
resolution (oversample the grain) in order to extract all the 
information out of the film, and to avoid aliasing. Also scanners are 
different, so pixels from a scanner are not equal to those from a  
digital SLR (for example).

>
> I'm not knocking the DMR - I want one or two - but will it be as good 
> as my Velvia?  I can't see how.  Again, not necessarily a problem, I 
> just need to know before I spend the money.  :-)  I've also heard it 
> will be upgradeable and that's good.  Any comments on this?

It certainly *could* be as good or better -- the proof will be in the 
implementation -- probably for certain things Velvia will be better 
(e.g. gamut) but for others the digital back will be 'better'. Think of 
it like a different kind of film --- one that will be very cost 
effective after you use up the initial 1000 roll order :-)

Jonathan


In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Re: Nikon's profits tripled)
Message from feli2 at earthlink.net (Feli di Giorgio) ([Leica] Re: Nikon's profits tripled)
Message from firkin at balhpl01.ncable.net.au (firkin) ([Leica] Re: Nikon's profits tripled)
Message from rdcb37 at dodo.com.au (Rick Dykstra) ([Leica] Re: Nikon's profits tripled)