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Subject: [Leica] Extra photo bag on the plane
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Thu Oct 7 14:35:55 2004
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I,d check in the lot and use a heavy duty case like pelicans .Nobody will 
open them since the lower decks contents are fryed with high energy Xrays 
anyway.
Below the seat storage is becoming problematic in business and first classes 
because the set electronics take up more and more room.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Laurel" <jplaurel@nwlink.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Extra photo bag on the plane


> Simon,
> I don't have any problem with checking in equipment, thus enhancing cabin 
> safety.  However, I would want the airline to take responsibility for my 
> checked baggage, or at least sell insurance to cover valuable goods 
> checked in.  With security (supposedly) so tight at airports, it's hard to 
> understand why there is still so much theft from checked baggage.  So 
> here's the situation for a pro or avid amateur shooting digital:
>
> 1) Your EOS1Ds or EOS1D MkII + 16-35, 28-70, 70-200 and flash (no back up 
> body - a conservative kit for a pro photographer doing an editorial shoot 
> nowadays) now exceed many international carriers' carry on limits of 8kg, 
> even though it all fits in a LowePro Mini Trekker, which fits underneath 
> the seat in front of you.
> 2) Because you're shooting digital, you need a laptop.  And no, a digital 
> wallet by itself is not good enough, because without a laptop, you have no 
> way of reviewing your images daily and making sure that a big frigging 
> hair hasn't lodged itself on your sensor.  Your standard soft Eagle Creek 
> briefcase with a 15" Powerbook, plus AC adapter, FlashTrax (+ its 
> adapter), plus various wires and adapters required, by itself is at the 
> 8kg limit set by many intl airlines.
> 3) You can't lock things into hard cases any more, because TSA and other 
> security agencies simply cut your locks off
> 4) Using the TSA locks is useless, because all the thieves that work at 
> the airports will have the means to open them.
> 5) Forget about FedEx.  You're flying into Vientianne...or Rangoon...or 
> Windhoek...or <insert developing country here>
>
> Domestic US is another matter.  It is reasonable to live within 18kg for 
> carry-ons.  But for those of us who fly international often, 8kg is 
> getting to be the standard.
>
> So, Simon, just what in the hell are we supposed to do?
>
> --Jim
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2004, at 7:07 AM, animal wrote:
>
>> No you are dead wrong.
>> The usual average mass per person is 76 kg,s and luggage is set at 18 kg 
>> for medium distance flights.
>>
>> The manufacturers clearly put placards in every luggage bin with the 
>> maximum load.
>>
>> It,s up to the airlines and the passengers to ensure that that is 
>> complied with.
>> Next time read your tickets carefully to see what your obligations are in 
>> this respect.
>> Same for dangerous goods in carry ons.Even small things like a zippo 
>> lighter or a gas haircurler.
>> There is an industry wide effort to remove the liquor from the cabin.
>> This results in many major airports to allow tax free sales upon arrival.
>> The final say is with the purser and cabin attendant at the door during 
>> boarding.
>> If they notice unusually large or heavy carry ons they have to let in 
>> load below decks.
>> The best airlines are quite good at implementing these rules.Usually 
>> there are check boxes at checkin were you can test the dimensions and 
>> weights of carry on bags.Still many are very bad especially in the 
>> Americas and with upstarts as well.
>> Point i,m trying to make is that these restrictions are not silly rules 
>> they are a matter of life and death.
>> It,s as simple as that.
>> simon jessurun
>
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