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From: Dan C <email@example.com> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Digital noise To: Leica Users Group <firstname.lastname@example.org> Message-ID: <email@example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Those of you who have tried both, can you tell us why you prefer Noise Ninja to Neat Image? I have very mixed feelings about the noise reduction programs. I have Neat Image, and I've found that there is a very delicate balance between noise removal and softening the image (or worse, making it look like plastic). So much tweaking to do, so little time. With film grain at least, I have found that by the time I find that balance, the overall gain is often so subtle that I might as well not have bothered. Neat Image has worked best on ISO 400 P&S digicam images with color noise. It's also done wonders for marginal images on silver film, particularly Neopan 1600 in really bad light. For a well-exposed Tri-X image, I find that the grain is part of the perception of sharpness, and it's usually better to leave it alone. I think that some people have decided that anything that looks like a perfect digital image is "good," and anything that shows any noise is automatically "bad." Which means that 35mm film always looks bad, and must be fixed to look like digital. I disagree. As a matter of fact, it's been shown that a small amount of noise actually adds to a perception of sharpness and detail. Just as a small amount of white noise makes weak sounds more intelligible. --Peter Klein Seattle, WA Dan C. wrote: > I'll second the rcommendation for Noise Ninja. But there is only so > much any noise reducing program can do, for those really noisy p/s ISO > 800 images. At 04:57 PM 07-09-04 -0400, B. D. Colen wrote: >Or just buy one of the available noise removal PS plug-ins or actions, >or a free-standing noise removal progam. I'm partial to Noise Ninja >myself, although there are a few other programs that do a pretty good >job.