Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/17

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Subject: [Leica] The cat came back...
From: lea at (lea)
Date: Tue Aug 17 19:43:29 2004
References: <001001c484ca$f5ed8220$ef279d18@jimyuk06mzqas1>


I took a look at your image and I find it to be technically very good
with regards to lighting and tonality.

My question in looking at this picture (and most every picture) is
'why'. Why are three very beautiful young girls standing around with
pancake ears, clearly posing for the camera? What is to be gained by
this? What do we know about them? What have we learned by this
photograph that we didn't know before? What happened before this moment?
What is likely to happen next?

For me, there are not clear answers to these questions and that bothers
me. I can't make sense of the similar shirts, the funky posing and the
place...are they part of a cooking team? Are they in a school cafeteria?
Are they in a cooking class at Disneyland? Are they cooking your

I'm certain that this image makes sense to YOU and that is a good thing.
Looking at it without knowing the details is a bit unsettling because
nothing about it clears up any of the questions I have. And that is part
of the problem, I think, with posting images to the PAWs and the web in often the image has meaning to the person who took it and
to those who are familiar with the events photographed but outsiders
can't make heads nor tails out of things.

When I view an image it has about 5 seconds to make an impression of
good or bad and only if it's really, really impressive do I take the
time and trouble to make a comment. That doesn't mean I didn't
just means it didn't move me to respond.

Are you satisfied to hear your images are technically well excecuted
(which I suspect you already know) or do you want to hear critique of
what the image says to a viewer?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim McIntyre" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: [Leica] The cat came back...

Hello LUG

I unsubscribed a few weeks ago. I was a little annoyed with some of the
off-topic chatter, the "cliquish" and self-serving dialogue, and the
general meandering of the group, etc. More to the point, I posted 5
PAW's in a row, and got zero -- nada -- feedback. I'm under no delusions
that I'm the next HBC, or anything close, but I do think I have
something to offer. And I really do appreciate feedback -- laudatius or
otherwise. The lack of response is worse than negative (and hopefully
constructive) feedback. It's like talking to a dead phone line....

However, I have been checking the LUG archives, and looking at the
posts. I've skipped over the more off-topic messages (which admittedly
can be quite entertaining and educational), stayed away from the
vitriolic political threads, and checked all the PAW and photograph
postings I could. The truth is I have valued the feedback I have
received in the past, and knowing I had an "obligation" to keep up my
PAW activities for the LUG kept me active with my camera (no small
challenge with rebuilding a career and 3 kids...).

So I'm back. And to put my money where my keyboarding is, I've posted a

Slam away, lambaste me for using my nieces and daughter as convenient
subjects, but please, let me know you took the time to view my work, and
by all means let know what I can do to improve. No photographer should
work in vacuum...except to remove the dust from the negatives!



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