Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/07/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Simon, I have the first generation Summicron R and the Noctilux. I also took a moment to review what Erwin said about both lenses. First, the Summicron R first generation is a better lens than the Summicron II for the M system which means that it is better than the rigid or the Dual Range which is very high praise indeed. My sample for the R is what moved me out of the Canon system for anything but fill flash macro and some telephoto sports work. Even wide open the first generation Summicron is a stunning lens. Parsing Erwin's comments, with the exception of a little less coma, the new lens isn't any better than the old lens except that it was probably less expensive to manufacture (my comment). Regarding the Noctilux, it is a very fine lens, but the really fine details will be better rendered by the Summicron as well as much better micro-contrast rendition. If you will be shooting subjects with extreme contrast and/or shooting through Perspex then the Noctilux may be the better choice. If you will be shooting subjects that have normal contrast and/or fine to very fine detail then the Summicron will be the better choice. Last, the Summicron will give a more vivid color palette albeit by a small amount. Don dorysrus@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of animal Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 5:39 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] 50 mm lens choice help requested. > Simon, > The Summicron R will have more contrast so might be a better comparison > to the Nikon. Another strike against the Noctilux is that it has a fair > amount of focus shift as you stop down: if you are at infinity that > doesn't matter much though. > > The focus shift is mostly covered by increased dof, it is one reason the > Noctilux is only great stopped down. > > The other reason to stay with the R is that you will be comparing reflex > to reflex lenses. On the other hand, if you are using a deep red > filter, focusing will be much easier with the Noctilux. > > I know indecision is no help, and the temptation to take the sexy glass > is almost overpowering, but the R lens is better in the middle apertures > by some. > > Don > dorysrus@mindspring.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of animal > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 5:11 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: [Leica] 50 mm lens choice help requested. > > Hi, > I,ve been asked to go along with a friend photographer to make a 360 > from a > skyscraper. > We will use a Sinar but also he would like to compare 50 mm leica lenses > with his nikon one. > I have an old R summicron and a noctilux . > Which one should i take along ? > Thanks for your advice > simon jessurun > P.s. he also wants to use a 25 red filter. > That,s not it i just have very little experience with the summicron.I only put 1 roll behind it yet. All will be at infinity. Thanks simon _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information