Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/05/12
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Phong and Tina: I think you are *both* right. And it's a very complex subject. On one hand, I think most people believe that if a tool exists, it will be used. If something is relatively easy, it will be done. So indirectly, every artistic Photoshop manipulation adds to the background sense of "everybody does it." This makes it easier for people to believe only what they want to. I don't think anyone believes intellectually that "pictures don't lie" anymore. On the other hand, images have a way of bypassing the critical facility. They get into our brains and guts in a way that words can't. My directing teacher in college used to tell us that "an audience hears with its eyes." In othe words, if the dialog says one thing and the visuals say another, the audience will believe the visuals. Right now, I think most people in Western societies believe that news photos are usually truthful, that content-changing alteration is done only occasionally, and the profession usually polices itself successfully. Altered photos are mostly the territory of the Politburo, McCarthy & Co., supermarket tabloids, divorce lawyers and the occasional corrupt D.A. But given the expanding political and religious fundamentalism afoot, how long will it be before the *possibility* of manipulation is turned into the *certainty* of manipulation when a photo contradicts someone's world view? How all this plays out is going to be very interesting. I'd hate to be prohibited from dust spotting my photos lest I corrupt the "truth checksum" embedded in my TIFF file by my camera or scanner. And what of gray areas like the environmental portrait that appears in a newspaper or news magazine. Many times these are staged in order to characterize the subject. Unless the staging is obvious, it has much of the power of a journalistic photo, yet its honesty depends on the honesty of the photographer. Aside: With all this in mind, I must confess that the following photo of Mark Rabiner, which I posted recently, was a recreation. But it was a faithful recreation of a gesture that occurred only a seconds earlier, when I hadn't quite focused the damn camera. And it wasn't exactly Iwo Jima. :-) http://www2.2alpha.com/~pklein/temp/30RabsSkinny.htm There. I feel better now. --Peter At 12:09 PM 5/12/04 -0700, Phong wrote: >At 09:25 AM 5/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > >Well said Henning. > >I am staunchly on your side and Philippe's, > >and opposite of B.D., Mark, and others'. > >To say that the image in itself looses its power > >because it is staged, (which it is not) is like > >saying a story is not good because it is fiction. > >Do you guys only watch movies "based on a true > >story" ? Tina wrote: >But, Phong, to write fiction and pass it off as true would be just as wrong >as staging a documentary photograph. That's how several journalists have >gotten in trouble lately. There should be a definite line between truth >and fiction in writing just as there should be between staged and >documentary photographs. > >Tina