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Subject: [Leica] Best known photo ?
From: saganicc at MSKCC.ORG (Saganich, Christopher/Medical Physics)
Date: Wed May 12 14:57:15 2004

I read an article written by the photographer a while back and I recall his story was that he went up the hill after other photographers had all ready photographed the first flag raising and left the scene.  When he arrived they were raising the second flag which was the one he snapped.  Better late then never.

Chris Saganich

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From: lug-bounces+saganicc=mskcc.org@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+saganicc=mskcc.org@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:34 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Best known photo ?

On 5/12/04 12:11 PM, "Tim Atherton" <timatherton@theedge.ca> wrote:

> 
>> My recollection of the story is that the Rosenthal photo was
>> presented to the
>> world as the actual first hoisting, even though it was *actually*
>> the second
>> time that the flag had been raised.
>> But, be that as it may, I was asking what makes "photojournalism"
>> - whatever
>> that is [ I see a lot of stuff called photojournalism which has
>> virtually no
>> journalistic content in it]? Does something have to be "real" or can a
>> re-enactment such as the Iwo Jima photo stand as journalism?
> 
> Your recollection is incorrect - first Rosenthal's photograph wasn't of a
> "re-enactment" - it was of a second flag raising, while fighting continued,
> of a larger flag - most likely for "morale" purposes as the first one was
> too small - the aim being to demoralize the Japanese and also boost the
> Marines morale while the fight continued.
> 
> Secondly - the photograph wasn't presented to the world as "the first flag
> raising". There were apparently some misunderstandings with captioning
> because of the two flag raisings - but it was merely presented as the
> raising of the flag by US Marines on Iwo Jima - which it was. That the
> Marines, for operational purposes chose to raise two flags is immaterial.
> Rosenthal captured both the truth and the facts of what happened with no
> deception. Any later confusion about what was presented was due to factual
> or semantic mistakes in the captioning - not in the accuracy or truth of the
> photograph.
> 
> tim a
> 
> 
I think it has the feeling of "first" to it though.
Like they finally made it to the top of the hill.

I'd hope they'd explain it was the second. But it was better to let the
feeling of "first" be inferred as it was a stronger feeling than "bigger".

So in that not overly large sense the truth was being not being exactly
told. There was a tinge of propaganda involved.
Which is an unfortunate reality of war and I take in stride.
So the true truth comes out later?




Mark Rabiner
Photography
Portland Oregon



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