Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/05/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I'm with you, Jeffery - The Nokton has, even according to Erwin Puts, a slight edge on the Summicron in terms of contrast and sharpness, and it has about a $1000 edge in terms of new price. It's well built - almost Leica-like. I have no problems with the bokeh, although Nathan certainly isn't the first person to complain about it. But I'd say it's one of the real bargains in Leica lensdom. A Noctilux as a primary 50 makes absolutely no sense - too big, too heavy, too little depth of field - and very, very weird, ugly bokeh. It's one thing to have one for that handful of times each year when the difference between f 1.4 and f 1 means getting or missing the picture. But for all around shooting - and still being able to shoot in available darkness, the Nokton is the winnah! ;-) B. D. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Jeffery Smith Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:03 AM To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: RE: [Leica] best all round 50 mm?? I only agree half with you, Nathan. You named the Summicron first, and then switched to the Summilux. :-) I would have said the Nokton simply because I don't have the Summilux, but the combination of size, weight, speed, and optical qualities make a 50/1.5 lens my top pick. Try to go any faster than that, and you are lugging a ton of weight. For the LUGer, it's a 50/1.4 Summilux. For the novice, it's the Nokton. What's wrong with the Nokton's bokeh? Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Wajsman Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:52 AM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] best all round 50 mm?? Hi Ruben, The obvious answer to your question is the 50mm Summicron. I have owned it, as well as a Noctilux, a Voigtlander Nokton, and a Summilux (no all at the same time). In the end, I ended up with the Summilux, as the best compromise between speed, size, price (I bought it new but at a very good price from a dealer in Germany) and image quality. I would say it like this: - for ultimate speed, obviously the Noctilux - for best image quality, the Summicron (but you are limited to f2) - for greatest flexibility, the Summilux - the low cost option is a Nokton, but I hated its bokeh, and since I shoot a lot with wide apertures, the bokeh is important to me. Whatever you do, do not buy it in Copenhagen--every time I stop by Photografica or Foto AV, I am horrified by the high prices. Nathan Ruben wrote: > > I use my 35 mm summicron (non asph, ca. 1990) 85% of the time and my 90 mm > 15% on my M6. I never used normal lenses much, but by using them in > medium-format I found that I am beginning to like them more and more. Since > I never tried a normal 50 mm on my M6, and since I would probably not use it > more them say 15-20 % of the time (time mostly taken by the amount I would > have used the 35 mm) I do not want to use a fortune on a lens - I dont need > the noctilux F 1.0, but I would like go for a lens of max F.2.0 like the > summicron. Question ?? some of you shooting a lot of 50 mm with experience > of different optics - what would be the best 50 mm allround optics, with an > image quality like my 35 mm summicron - would some of the olde optics be as > good - and what about voigtl?nder? I shoot a lot of pictures with little DOF > so i prefere not to have optics showing pantagon/hexagon shaped highlights > in the background > ruben > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Nathan Wajsman Almere, The Netherlands e-mail: n.wajsman@chello.nl Mobile: +31 630 868 671 http://www.nathanfoto.com/index.html _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information