Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/04/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yes, I understand the difference between personal/legislated. You'll note I have not advocated for legislated solutions. Etiquette should be the driver here, not law. But I *don't* understand the implication in your first post that a non smoker who is trying to avoid having his clothes smell smoky is a 'self-indulgent, imposing jackass' while the smoker who is trying to have a smoke while making the other guy's clothes smell smoky is not a 'self-indulgent, imposing jackass'. One is imposing on the other in each case. What's the difference? On Apr 11, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Sam wrote: > Do you understand the difference between personal behavior and > legislated behavior? I've been both a smoker and, for the past 25 > years, a non-smoker. When I smoked, I would ask if smoking bothered > the people I was with before I lit up. Some gracious non-smokers would > consent to my smoking even though their clothing might take on the > odor of tobacco. One might well conclude that such forbearance was > the result of my effervescent personality. Being in my presence while > I puffed on a cancer stick, surely causing that person to go home to > loved ones reeking of Havana, certainly is a testimonial to my > pleasantness of spirit. Which brings me to another matter. Militant > non-smokers are humorless. It stands to reason, of course, that anyone > who wants to live to be 112 years old would become surly at the mere > hint of lung smoke. I once lived in the same apartment building as an > activist non-smoker. He woke up each morning--rain or shine-- at 5am > and went for a run. One morning while jogging upstairs from his run, > he dropped dead of a heart attack. I was the person who found him. I > do confess to this list that there is a very dark side of me. For a > moment upon seeing the body, I had an almost uncontrollable temptation > to place a lit cigarette in his mouth--or his a*s. > > Sam S > > > sdp35 wrote: > >> So let me see if I understand...a non smoker is a "self-indulgent, >> imposing jackasses who are always busy getting other people to do >> something they don't want to do, or to not do something they want to >> do." but a smoker forcing a non smoker to "to do something they >> don't want to do, or to not do something they want to do" i.e. to >> have the non smoker's clothing smell like the smoker's smoke, is not >> a self indulgent, imposing jackass? >> >> Not sure I see the difference... >> >> CZ >> NC >> >> On Apr 11, 2004, at 6:14 AM, Sam wrote: >> >>> My motto is "Smoke 'till ya choke." The problem is that the >>> thought/action/don't-even-think-it police are out of control. In NYC >>> a shop owner does not have the right to allow smoking, even if it's >>> a tavern. >>> >>> B.D.'s statement that if we allow one drug (smoking) we must allow >>> all drugs is not well thought out. I wonder why he did not use >>> alcohol as his example (hiccup!). Certainly alcohol kills more >>> innocent people than smoking. >>> I like smokers. These flawed human beings are a breath of fresh air >>> :) in relation to the self-indulgent, imposing jackasses who are >>> always busy getting other people to do something they don't want to >>> do, or to not do something they want to do. >>> >>> Happy Easter, Passover-- >>> >>> Sam S >>> >>> >>> Tina Manley wrote: >>> >>>> At 07:12 PM 4/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> Face it - people who smoke are drug addicts. And unless you favor >>>>> the >>>>> legalization of all currently illegal narcotic substances, you're >>>>> being >>>>> a hypocrite to whine about smoker's rights and the 'persecution' of >>>>> smokers. >>>>> >>>>> B. D. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm back after a week in Kentucky. There seem to be more die-hard >>>> smokers in Kentucky (where lots of tobacco is grown) than even in >>>> North Carolina (where all of the tobacco companies are based). We >>>> stopped at one antique store that had a prominent sign outside >>>> "Smokers Welcome!" I knew I shouldn't have gone in, but my husband >>>> was looking for antique light fixtures. As soon as we walked in my >>>> sinuses plugged up and I got a headache. There is no way I would >>>> have bought anything in that store. There were several books I >>>> would have been interested in, but they were infused with the smell >>>> of stale smoke. There is no way to get that smell out of books. >>>> Smokers have the freedom to smoke in their own homes and stores and >>>> I have the right to refuse to buy anything they are selling. >>>> >>>> Tina >>>> >>>> >>>> Tina Manley, ASMP >>>> www.tinamanley.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >