Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/03/03

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Subject: RE: [Leica] buyer beware: postscript
From: "Saganich, Christopher/Medical Physics" <saganicc@MSKCC.ORG>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:20:38 -0500

I concur with B.D. Perhaps someone neutral should pull the curtain back.  This person should not be doing business around here or anywhere.  And take it to small claims court, make it public record.

Chris Saganich

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of B. D. Colen
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:38 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] buyer beware: postscript

Mark - Given Joseph's experience and yours, might I suggest that it is
time to post this person's name on the LUG as a warning to all LUGers,
rather than continue to protect him by only revealing it on a 'need to
know basis' - which really means 'after you've been burned?'

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Joseph Yao
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:19 PM
To: Leica User Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] buyer beware: postscript


I had a similar experience with the same individual three years ago.  He
advertised a couple of 'mint' lenses on the LUG but when they arrived,
they were full of haze and were certainly less than mint.  He refused to
reimburse me for his inaccurate description/repair costs.  I lost a few
dollars, but learned a lesson about this person.  He lost a lot a lot
more.

Joseph


on 3/3/04 10:08 PM, Mark Theken at marktheken@yahoo.com wrote:

> The message that follows was returned this morning undelivered.  I am 
> leaving for Europe tomorrow for 3 weeks and need to conclude this 
> matter as I anticipate only limited access to the internet while I am
> traveling.  I offer my sincere thanks to those who
> expressed concern and shared information about the
> seller over the past several weeks.
> I will confirm the name of the seller should you wish
> to contact me privately.
> Dear Exxxxxx:
> It is incomprehensible to me that you refused to
> acknowledge my good faith efforts to reconcile the
> transaction you made with me following your FS post on
> the LUG web site.  Although I stand to lose
> $3000-$4000 on this transaction due to your
> misrepresentation of M3 993XXX, I think your loss will
> be much greater over time.  You staked your reputation
> as a honorable dealer with the members of the LHSA and
> LUG communities.  Numerous email messages and
> telephone conversations bring me to realize my bad
> judgment in making a good faith transaction with you.
> The world of Leica enthusiasts and collectors, as we
> all know, is a very small one.
> It is beyond the scope of my understanding how you can
> justify compromising your integrity for the financial
> gain you realized in this transaction.
> Sincerely,
> Mark Theken    
> 
> 
> 
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