Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/10

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Subject: Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography
From: RUBEN BLĘDEL <ruben@rhodos.dk>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:48:01 +0100
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Ted,
I think it is very sympatic of you to respect women on this list as well 
as in the community, but I do think that you are going a bit to far on 
this issue - this is 2003 and with all respect the topic of the 
mentioned project we are confronted with every time we open our mail 
programmes and receive the large amount of junk and spam mail. Art or 
not art but I see the project as an anti-porn and strong statement and 
in no way sensationalism. But then again there may be a difference in 
the way Americans and Europeans see upon this subject ?.
Ruben

Ted Grant wrote:

>Karen Nakamura said:
>Subject: Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography
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>>Did you actually check out the photos?  There's no nudity involved so
>>I'm having difficulty seeing where you see porn. From a pure visual
>>perspective, they're a rip on the milk moustache advertisements.<<<
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>Karen,
>Sorry it doesn't matter whether they're naked or not, with words or not,
>it's not fit for mixed company! And it sure isn't a "rip" on the milk
>commercial. That was a beautiful bit of photography, this isn't anything but
>sensationalism for the sake of sensationalism of the lowest denominator.
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>It's just plain garbage with absolutely no need to be here at all. It has
>nothing to do with art other then in the minds of weak minded sexually
>depraved people.
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>What I really feel bad about is, this is a mixed audience of ladies, and I'd
>hope some of us are still gentlemen who look upon this kind of crap not for
>mixed company. It's called respect of a lady!
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>I realize in this day and age too many people / men forget women are
>supposed to be treated with respect. Even if in some cases the women aren't
>bright enough to realize we are trying to be polite and respectful!
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>ted
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In reply to: Message from "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (RE: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography)
Message from "www.geocities.com/curtisbliss" <surrealistic@cox.net> (Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography)
Message from Karen Nakamura <mail@gpsy.com> (Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography)
Message from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography)