Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/10/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The encouraging thing about it is the notion of a high quality digital camera that is compact in size. I think there is a place in the market for such a product. At present, there is no way to have the imaging quality of a DSLR with the form factor of an M camera. You either suffer with slow zooms on P&S digicams, or groan under a 15lb load with a DSLR + pro grade lenses. That said, this "digital M" needs a larger sensor and high pixel count. - --Jim - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today! > The camera is only M-like in a few features. Seems we take our impressions > (get our hopes up) from the subject line. I see it as a direct competitor > to d-slr cameras, like Oly, fuji, and some Sony's. Probably the Digilux 2 > rather than a Leica DM. > > This camera is an evolved LC5 with features unavailable on a fixed zoom > camera up until now. > > I still have it a little narrower than an M, but thicker due to the size of > the lens. > > S. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:52 PM > Subject: RE: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today! > > > > I'm not suggesting that an electronic viewfinder is bad at all - only > > that it is not "M-like." > > > > Also, if it's not a digital M in terms of form, function, and > > interchangeable lenses, it's not a digital M.;-) What it may well be is > > a terrific digital P&S with high-end capabilities, gussied up so that, > > as Babble Fish so charmingly translates it, "it seems like silver salt > > film camera. I guess it all comes down to what seems means, right? > > > > As to size, though, Sonny, it sure looks clunkier than an M to me - but > > I could be way off base... > > > > B. D. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Sonny > > Carter > > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:20 PM > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today! > > > > > > BD opined: > > > > > > > A very intriguing looking camera. I would however, have several > > > general questions - 1. Why a digital/electronic camera with a top > > > shutter speed of 1000th? Sure, we love our Ms, and the top speed is > > > 1000th, but that is a draw-back, not a plus. > > > > I see 1/2000th on the wheel > > > > > 2. Yes, the lens is designed by Leica, but the whole idea of a digital > > > > > M would be to use the Leica glass we have and love - which this > > > wouldn't let us do. > > > > That, doesn't work, as Msr. Brick and others have said. > > > > > 3. It looks far bigger and bulkier than an M, which loses part of the > > > M appeal. > > > > Size wise, the body appears to be about the same as my LC5, which is a > > little narrower and a little taller than my M6. I am judging by size > > indicators like the flash shoe and logos. > > > > > > > 4. If you're going to go for a pretty hefty digital at an undoubtedly > > > hefty price, why not go for a DSLR with interchangeable lenses? > > > > Price is not indicated. Probably would compete well in the sub $1k > > range > > > > >This > > > doesn't appear to be a real rangefinder any more than the Contax G2 is > > > > >a real rangefinder - it's an auto/ "manual" focus digital with a > > >window to look through where you see what you see on the screen. > > > > We don't know that yet, it looks like it has an electronic internal > > viewfinder besides the LCD. Those of us who have shot professional > > video and professional film know that's not all bad, and can give you a > > better indication of the final product than a strictly optical VF can. > > The electronic VF puts it more into the SLR catagory than rangefinder. > > > > > > > 5. Why buy a more expensive version with a red-dot on it? Folks like > > > Sonny have shown us that not having the red dot doesn't degrade image > > > quality a bit.;-) > > > > That is true, and I will likely stick to the LC version. and use the > > money left over for more memory cards. > > > > > > All of that said, it is really good looking, and it is too bad that > > > Leica doesn't have this lens, as a click stop "zoom" for the M - 28 f > > > 2 to 10? F 4? Not bad. > > > > > > > > > > B. D. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Lucien > > > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:21 AM > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today! > > > > > > > > > > > > A really interesting picture of the new Pana-Leica M. > > > > > > http://www.photo.net/bboard/big-image?bboard_upload_id=14698684 > > > > > > Manual zooming, and if wanted, manual focusing and manual aperture and > > > > > speed settings. > > > > > > A 28-90 f2,0-2,4;Asph. designed by Leica... > > > > > > I wonder what will be the focusing help in manual focusing mode. > > > > > > Lucien > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html