Re: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today!

["Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>]

The camera is only M-like in a few features.  Seems we take our impressions
(get our hopes up)  from the subject line.   I see it as a direct competitor
to d-slr cameras, like Oly, fuji, and some Sony's.  Probably the Digilux 2
rather than a Leica DM.

This camera is an evolved LC5  with features unavailable on a fixed zoom
camera up until now.

I still have it a little narrower than an M, but thicker due to the size of
the lens.

S.



- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today!


> I'm not suggesting that an electronic viewfinder is bad at all - only
> that it is not "M-like."
>
> Also, if it's not a digital M in terms of form, function, and
> interchangeable lenses, it's not a digital M.;-) What it may well be is
> a terrific digital P&S with high-end capabilities, gussied up so that,
> as Babble Fish so charmingly translates it, "it seems like silver salt
> film camera. I guess it all comes down to what seems means, right?
>
> As to size, though, Sonny, it sure looks clunkier than an M to me - but
> I could be way off base...
>
> B. D.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Sonny
> Carter
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:20 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today!
>
>
> BD opined:
>
>
> > A very intriguing looking camera. I would however, have several
> > general questions - 1. Why a digital/electronic camera with a top
> > shutter speed of 1000th? Sure, we love our Ms, and the top speed is
> > 1000th, but that is a draw-back, not a plus.
>
> I see 1/2000th on the wheel
>
> > 2. Yes, the lens is designed by Leica, but the whole idea of a digital
>
> > M would be to use the Leica glass we have and love - which this
> > wouldn't let us do.
>
> That, doesn't work, as Msr. Brick and others have said.
>
> > 3. It looks far bigger and bulkier than an M, which loses part of the
> > M appeal.
>
> Size wise, the body appears to be about the same as my LC5, which is a
> little narrower and a little taller than my M6.  I am judging by size
> indicators like the flash shoe and logos.
>
>
> > 4. If you're going to go for a pretty hefty digital at an undoubtedly
> > hefty price, why not go for a DSLR with interchangeable lenses?
>
> Price is not indicated.  Probably would compete well in the sub $1k
> range
>
> >This
> > doesn't appear to be a real rangefinder any more than the Contax G2 is
>
> >a  real rangefinder - it's an auto/  "manual" focus digital with a
> >window to look through where you see what  you see on the screen.
>
> We don't know that yet, it looks like it has an electronic internal
> viewfinder besides the LCD.  Those of us who have shot professional
> video and professional film know that's not all bad, and can give you a
> better indication of the final product than a strictly optical VF can.
> The electronic VF puts it more into the SLR catagory than rangefinder.
>
>
> > 5. Why buy a more expensive version with a red-dot on it? Folks like
> > Sonny have shown us that not having the red dot doesn't degrade image
> > quality a bit.;-)
>
> That is true, and I will likely stick to the LC version. and use the
> money left over for more memory cards.
> >
> > All of that said, it is really good looking, and it is too bad that
> > Leica doesn't have this lens, as a click stop "zoom" for the M - 28 f
> > 2 to 10? F 4? Not bad.
>
>
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Lucien
> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 11:21 AM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Closest thing to a Digital M announced today!
> >
> >
> >
> > A really interesting picture of the new Pana-Leica M.
> >
> > http://www.photo.net/bboard/big-image?bboard_upload_id=14698684
> >
> > Manual zooming, and if wanted, manual focusing and manual aperture and
>
> > speed settings.
> >
> > A 28-90 f2,0-2,4;Asph. designed by Leica...
> >
> > I wonder what will be the focusing help in manual focusing mode.
> >
> > Lucien
> >
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