Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sonny NO! That came from Porsche Design, an Austrian company run by some of the same "famiglia". Has NOTHING to do with the Porsche factory in Germany. That would be like stating that you owned the company that made "Carters Little Liver Pills" (or is that before your time?) Jerry Sonny Carter wrote: > heh, there is Porsche and then there is Porsche. My VPR Matrix Computer > monitor has "design by F.A. Porsche" inscribed on it; I'd doubt it came off > a German assembly line. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] Digilux? > > > Sonny > > > > Sounds just like the arguments we had in the Porsche world about > > the "Porsche" 914, 924, and 944. My position was/ is "If it wasn't > > made in the Porsche factory, it isn't a Porsche" Do you have any > > problem with that? > > > > Jerry > > > > Sonny Carter wrote: > > > > > Larry, there's a lot of that going on in the world today. If you buy a > > > Mazda truck, it will probably be built by Ford in Mexico with a German > > > engine, and maybe a French Tranny. If you buy an Isuzu pickup truck, > rest > > > assured it was made by some us rednecks in Louisiana. > > > > > > Leica has been having P&S cameras made by Japanese companies (mostly > > > Panasonic) for some years, and elements of the R cameras and some > lenses > > > were made in Japan by various manufacturers. > > > > > > I guess there's no answer your question of to what extent does Solms > have to > > > be involved to call it a Leica is purely hypothetical. There are some > who > > > say if it wasn't made in Wetzlar it is not a true Leica, but they would > be > > > discounting lots of nice Canadian made equipment. > > > > > > If we follow your line, some Noctiluxes were made by General Motors, > because > > > for a while they were the owners of the Midland plant where the > light-sucker > > > was made. > > > > > > 'tis a hard question with probably no answer, but I do consider my Lika > > > Leica, Leica quality > > > > > > Sonny > > > (who lived in Wetzlar, visited Solms, but has no actual Leica-made parts > in > > > his construction.) > > > http://www.sonc.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <LRZeitlin@aol.com> > > > To: <leica-users-digest@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:01 AM > > > Subject: [Leica] Digilux? > > > > > > > Question: > > > > > > > > I know of at least four different cameras, made by two manufacturers, > > > bearing > > > > the name Leica Digilux. One series, the Fuji made Digiluxes, were > simply > > > the > > > > cosmetically altered Fuji Finepix 1700, 1700 Zoom, and 4800 cameras. > The > > > other > > > > is the Panasonic DC5 variation. With the Fuji cameras, Leica didn't > even > > > > claim responsibility for the lens. All they contributed was an > expensive > > > brochure > > > > and the red Leica dot. Even the manual was printed in Japan. Leica > claims > > > to > > > > have a hand in designing the Panasonic version but their touch seems > very > > > light > > > > indeed. > > > > > > > > How much of an influence does Leica have to have in the design of a > camera > > > to > > > > be truly regarded as a Leica? Does it make the lens? Does it make the > > > body? > > > > Does it simply lease the rights to the name? If the red dot falls off > my > > > (Fuji) > > > > Leica Digilux Zoom, is it still a Leica? > > > > > > > > This is a question worthy of Philosophy 101. You know, like the famous > > > broken > > > > knife problem. If a knife blade breaks and you replace the blade, then > the > > > > handle breaks and you replace the handle, is it the same knife? > > > > > > > > Larry Z > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html