Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi to all, Mark provide his data and I've looked at it and rescaled the data in a form that is the same as that used in Zone system analysis. The big difference between digital systems and film analysis is that the film information is returned as DENSITY. To use Marks data (which was collected quite correctly) to compare to a photographic system we must convert the digital values to a VIRTUAL DENSITY VALUE. Mark reflected his exposure, again, quite correctly, as exposure shifts in f-stops. If we wish to calculate a contrast index or gamma from this data we must scale the f number shifts and convert them logrithmically as well. To scale the digital values to form a virtual density using Excel we use the following relationship virtual density = -log10(nn/255) where nn is the number we wish to scale (assuming an 8 bit value) to scale the fstop axis, as Mark has provided we use the following relationship log exposure = -log10(2^fshift / 2^maximum positive fshift) The log exposure is the X axis of the characteristic curve The virtual density is Y axis of the plot. Now you have a plot that can be related in photgraphic terms to other systems. I will send a reduced spreadsheet and plot of the data Mark has posted here to anyone who requests it. here is the reduced data -5 5 2.40824 1.70757 -4.5 6 2.257725 1.628389 -4 9 2.10721 1.452298 -3.5 13 1.956695 1.292597 -3 20 1.80618 1.10551 -2.5 24 1.655665 1.026329 -2 32 1.50515 0.90139 -1.5 43 1.354635 0.773072 -1 56 1.20412 0.658352 -0.5 78 1.053605 0.514446 0 96 0.90309 0.424269 0.5 128 0.752575 0.29933 1 147 0.60206 0.239223 1.5 177 0.451545 0.158567 2 196 0.30103 0.114284 2.5 231 0.150515 0.042928 3 252 0 0.00514 The first two columns are the data as Mark sent. If you plot this data, you will see a small shoulder, a rather short toe and a gradient of around .85 in the midtone region. This is very agressive for display on a monitor, but it mimics the gradient that you would get by scanning a transparency. This is not really optimimum at all. The reason for my comment about archiving in NEF is that I honestly think that Nikon understands that work will continuly improve in the color management world. Storage in Raw format will allow better algorithms to be applied to the data AFTER capture. Keep in mind that Nikon also allows storage of NEF files from their scanner applications. As our understanding of the color science improves, we will be able to apply those advances to archived images. Tom Lianza Technical Director Sequel Imaging Inc.- A GretagMacbeth Company 25 Nashua Rd. Londonderry, NH 03053 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Davison" <mark_e_davison@msn.com> To: <tlianza@sequelimaging.com>; <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: Re: RE. Digital Characteristic Curves > A propos of T. Lianza's comments: > > I used the following methodology to measure the characteristic curve of the > D100: > > I set the D100 to RAW, Normal Tone Curve, spot metering, aperture priority. > > I then took a series of photographs of a piece of siding on my house that > has a very light texture, varying the exposure compensation in 1/2 stop > increments. > > I brought in each NEF file to my computer, converted to Photoshop with no > adjustments, selected the area I had metered on and used Image > Histogram > to get the mean luminosity. > > This methodology mimics what is typically done in the film Zone System when > a step wedge is not available. Technically it is probing the characteristic > curve of the combined lens, camera and sensor system, rather than just the > sensor itself. I used a 17-35 2.8 Nikkor zoom lens. > > Here's my data: > > Exp Comp digital output > > -5 5 > -4.5 6 > -4 9 > -3.5 13 > -3 20 > -2.5 24 > -2 32 > -1.5 43 > -1 56 > -0.5 78 > 0 96 > 0.5 128 > 1 147 > 1.5 177 > 2 196 > 2.5 231 > 3 252 > > I have plotted the data and there is no discernible shoulder. > > Mark Davison > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html