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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Wow, dig that crazy 90/AA!
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 13:32:58 -0700
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Jim

I'll buy that!  Sounds reasonable to me.

Now I'm waiting for Austin to rebut that! :-)

Jerry

Jim Brick wrote:

> All 90mm lenses, basically, produce the identical depth of field. If one
> 90mm lens has more contrast and higher resolution numbers, and the ability
> of recording fine detail better than the others, it will "appear" to have
> LESS DOF than the other lenses. This is because of the visual sharpness
> difference between the sharp and unsharp areas. There is an abrupt change
> between the very sharp and the less sharp areas. This is also why lens
> manufacturers say that to fully utilize the DOF scales on modern lenses,
> use it as if you were shooting two stops wider, ie; shoot at f/16, read the
> scale for f/8. The scales were computed back when lenses were not so sharp
> and film was not nearly as good as today's lenses and film.
>
> If your lens exhibits lower contrast, less fine detail recorded, etc, then
> the difference between the sharp and unsharp areas is less apparent thus
> giving the "impression" of greater DOF. It is a smoother transition between
> the sharp image parts and the less sharp image parts.
>
> This is a very well known fact and is why many people think that old lenses
> have greater DOF than new lenses. It's not true, it's simply the visual
> difference (sharpness contrast) between the sharp and unsharp areas.
>
> Jim
>
> PS... Depth Of Field is what you see in the photograph. Depth Of Focus is
> at the film plane and, even though (like depth of field) is dependent upon
> the aperture, is a different subject.
>
> At 09:06 AM 5/7/2003 -0700, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>
> >Don
> >
> >In this regard, I wish that someone could explain why and HOW
> >different lenses with the same aperture and focal length can produce
> >different depths of focus.  How can the laws of optics be ignored?
> >
> >Get as technical as you need to.  I can handle it, but don't resort to
> >mysticism, please.
> >
> >Jerry
>
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In reply to: Message from Peter Klein <pklein@2alpha.net> ([Leica] Wow, dig that crazy 90/AA!)
Message from "Don Dory" <dorysrus@mindspring.com> (Re: [Leica] Wow, dig that crazy 90/AA!)
Message from Jim Brick <jim@brick.org> ([Leica] Re: Wow, dig that crazy 90/AA!)