Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/02/13

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Leica Users digest V24 #63
From: "langhans" <langhans@compwrx.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:00:42 -0800
References: <200302122250.OAA19507@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>

Believe me is is NOT that they TRY to be everything to everybody, it is that
society is FORCING more and more rolls on the schools because what is often
a poor excuse for a family is not doing their job.  As a long time (29
years) teacher, I have seen the schools being told to take on more and more
responsibility that belongs to the parents.  It sounds like you are a good
parent who is doing their job, but look around...  The only requirement for
being a parent is either eggs or sperm.  So, society says, "I know where we
can teach values and social skills - at school.  After all, teachers love
kids or they wouldn't be doing their job, since God knows the could earn
more money elsewhere.  So, we'll have them teach Johnny and Susie how to be
model citizens, and by the way, you better also teach them the basics."

I for one would like to have the quality of student I once had.   Schools
cannot and should not be put into this position, because they will fail.
And then we get blamed for not doing the impossible.  When I hear about the
homelife of some of my students I just want to cry, grab them and take them
home.  But I have to try my best to reach them and teach them some science,
as that is what I was hired to do, and what I desired to do when I first
thought about being a teacher in 4th grade.

Sorry, I just got out of a day long meeting on accreditation for our school
and I am frustrated.  All the nonsense jargon and hoops to jump through.
AAARRRRGGGG.

Aram


> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:45:52 -0800
> From: Tina Manley <images@InfoAve.Net>
> Subject:
> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030212154340.00ab91b8@mail.infoave.net>
> References:
>
> At 12:30 PM 2/12/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >No socialization skills in the curriculum??
> >
> >It would seem to me important if the kids aren't going to be exposed to
> >other kids in a school...
>
>
> I think they assume that the parents will take care of exposing the kids
to
> other kids -  which I did.  One problem with today's public schools is
that
> they try to be everything to everybody.  Parents have to take some
> responsibility for raising their children.
>
> Tina
>
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> http://www.tinamanley.com


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