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Subject: Re: [Leica] These kids are well and truly Photoshopped
From: Rob Heyman <rheyman@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 08:58:49 +1000
References: <DAEOKOEHIBMMGOJNOFECAEFNDLAA.phong@metrowerks.com> <3D707CAA.E7BC5A28@bigpond.net.au> <006201c250f3$f07b90a0$e9efe243@5lgcn01>

Hi Julian,

Until recently I used a lot of Kodak T400TCN for its lovely silky-smooth look,
but I found that I sometimes had to add colour.
http://www.leica-gallery.net/heymanphoto/image-30521.html  and it takes too long
in Photoshop. Consequently, my thinking is to have the colour available in the
film, but print in B&W. Then again, I have not had many requests for colour for
some time. Maybe I should change back. Oooohhh, I'm so confused!

I use Fuji Supeior 400 for quite a lot of my wedding candids and some portraits,
but I use Fuji NPH for anything I think may need to be enlarged to 20 or 30
inches. It is just a better film and even in B&W it has a greater tonal range.
Having said that, I often go out with a bag full of superior if I think that I
may overshoot. The family you like so much has a mixture of NPH and Superior. I
used the NPH to start on the "real shots" and then used another 3 or 4 rolls
just playing. When a family spends as much time and effort in preparation for
their portrait session as this one does, and is as loyal a customer as they are,
I don't stop at any predetermined number of shots. They will come up with a
suggestion and I will add my interpretation and we go for it.

I went back to the same location last week and made notes on the different
locations at various tide times. Because of the very shallow water the beach
stretches out for a mile or so at low tide,
http://www.leica-gallery.net/heymanphoto/image-30492.html   but at half tide
there is a totally different set of locations closer to the beach where I will
be able to use jetties, mangroves, sea walls and boat ramps. These are the first
portraits I have ever done in this area, since I live inland nearly an hour
away, However I am now encouraging other clients to make the effort. (Not too
successfully, I might add) If I can convince some of them to make the journey I
will post the results to the same site.

The tone in the images is not your imagination, I just add a little in
Photoshop. B&W to me is a little cold and the warm tone adds a little interest.
It got your attention, didn't it?

Most of these have the the sky burned in considerably to add drama and I usually
burn the base too, so that the eye will not drop out of the bottom of the
picture.What all this comes down to is that I often darken the whole picture,
but hold back the centre of interest.

These are not hard and fast rules, I just treat each shot as it comes. Hope this
helps

Rob

Julian Koplen wrote:

> I am in love (figure of speech) with your series on the two boys and the
> family.  I know that the technical aspects were only one part of your
> creativity, but for this novice, would you be further generous and give more
> tech details.  For instance, did you use B/W Fuji film or color?  Is that a
> slight color tone I sense in the pictures or just my monitor and eyes
> playing tricks on me.  Did you do selective burning in, etc?  Whatever you
> can share will be much appreciated.  Again, my compliments.  I keep
> returning to the site to look at the pictures.
>
> Regards...............Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> (BIG SNIP)
>
> >
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/heymanphoto/image-30821.html
> > has a very beautiful, painterly quality; Norman Rockwell-like
> > which suits the subject.
> >
> > In http://www.leica-gallery.net/heymanphoto/image-32409.html,
> > my sensibilties suggest that if Georgie's the one on the left,
> > Georgie's  name should be on the left also.
> >
> > Thanks for sharing, especially the behind the scene tidbits in
> > http://www.leica-gallery.net/heymanphoto/folder-3208.html.
> >
> > Photoshop is a great tool !
> >

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