Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/08/24

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo education
From: S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 20:01:39 -0700
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Hi Ted;
(Damn, I should be watering the grass right  now) A molly-coddler is one
thing I could never be called. I never considered "lying" to someone
about their capabilities a favor. 
By the way, this is a photography program within a fine art dept. at a
liberal arts jr. college. Kind of interesting, as just the other day a
friend was asking me to make up my mind in acknowledging to being an
artist, and not just a photographer. Needless to say I just blinked at
him. 
Concerning learning their 'techne', there is no mercy. While I can't
dictate too hard on the vagaries of composition, even though there is
within the human species cultures a clear syntax in acknowledging form
and symmetry. However, I'll accept nothing less than a 10% white and 90%
black on their prints. That means keep shooting, and reshooting, until
it's right. 
Thanks for your offer by the way, it's definitely on the back burner.
Best,
 Slobodan Dimitrov


Ted Grant wrote:
> 
> Hi Slobodan,
> It doesn't matter what they think, there attending to gain an education so
> it's imperative you start off kicking ass with no molly coddling political
> correct crap. As learning photography isn't a piece of cake and just because
> they popped the money they're going to pass! Screw that, teach them it's a
> tough profession and it takes more than money and thinking it's a walk in
> the park.
> 
> Damn there are too many teachers teaching who couldn't make it on the
> street, but bull shitted their way into teaching is part of the reason we
> see so many lost souls floundering around trying to be "professional
> photographers" who still don't know what the hell light is all about!
> 
> So whatever you do, please don't turn out any limp noodles to the street
> thinking they're photographers. If you do, some of them will hate you for
> the rest of their lives and the others wont care, as they'll be shooting
> nickel and dime crap and scraping by thinking they're professionals until
> they go completely broke and get a job stocking grocery store shelves. Then
> they'll really hate you !
> 
> By the way, if I can be of help anytime give me a call as a visiting
> shooter, I'd be pleased to do so.
> 
> ted
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S Dimitrov" <sld@earthlink.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo education
> 
> > I spent Friday afternoon cleaning out the cobwebs inside the student's
> > darkroom. I did get a chance to peak inside a couple of binders left
> > over from the last semester. It was enough to make one weep,
> > under-exposed and under-developed negs, and prints that looked like grey
> > oatmeal. With passing grades no less.
> > This coming Tuesday is the big day where I'll see where this crew
> > stands.
> > Considering it's costing them around $25,000 a semester I hope they have
> > the attitude to make it count. From my experience with parochial
> > education, we always thought that if we paid the tuition we also passed
> > the class. I wonder if these kids will think the same?
> > Best,
> >  Slobodan Dimitrov
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In reply to: Message from "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (RE: [Leica] Photo education)
Message from S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> (Re: [Leica] Photo education)
Message from Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> (Re: [Leica] Photo education)