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Subject: RE: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi.
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:58:44 -0400

I thought that's what you meant, Oliver. And, based on your name, I'm going
to guess you're Vietnamese and your family was on the losing end of that
ugly conflict, so your reaction is understandable.

I don't want you to think for a minute that I am sympathetic toward
Communist governments or Communism. But I do believe that what is seen in
those photos is, as I said, seen throughout Asia. Indeed, it is seen
throughout the world - there are folks who sleep in alleys in the U.S., and
people who sell goods from baskets here.

The sad reality is that, in most cases, the suffering of people on the
bottom of any heap has to do more with the failures of Capitalism - a system
which has certainly improved the lives of countless 10s of millions of
people - than it does the evils of Communism, an utterly failed and
discredited experiment.

B. D.

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of olivier
nguyen
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:33 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi.


Hi B.D,
B.D, I don't know how to say this but that is how i feel about those
pictures.  a communist leader who make the country weaker and screwup entire
country. a couple sleep in pavement, a woman sell good with her basket.  it
give me an impression of poverty, politic and bad leadership that lead the
country to poverty end.

I am sorry to Clif if my previous post was directly against you.  I did not
mean it at all.

Olivier Nguyen


>From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Subject: RE: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi.
>Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:25:12 -0400
>
>I don't want to start something here, Oliver, but I don't understand what
>any of these photos have to do with Communism, other than the fact that one
>has a poster of Ho Chi Minh. Other than the photo with the Ho poster, these
>photos could have been taken in virtually any city in any nation in Asia.
>
>B. D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of olivier
>nguyen
>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:58 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi.
>
>
>good place for street photography.  1,3,5 are product of communism or what
>i
>call idiotic of VC
>:((
>too bad
>
>
> >From: clifford wright <skidoophoto@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >Subject: [Leica] New Street Photos from Hanoi.
> >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:44:32 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >This is my first time on the LUG!
> >I just uploaded a few street photos taken in Hanoi
> >last
> >summer with a M4-P and 35 and 50 summicrons at
> >http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=209735
> >There's more on the way.
> >Let me know what you think.
> >Thanks,
> >Clif
> >
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