Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/01/21

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Subject: RE: [Leica] going beyond family photography
From: "B. D. Colen" <>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:01:40 -0500

Come on, Steve, you of all people know what I'm saying - even if I have said
it in a loud rude manner..;-)

B. D.

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[]On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] going beyond family photography

Geeze,  Louise's always with  hesitation that I announce my
PAW... now I'm putting on my flak jacket,  man.


> Eric - Keep doing what you are doing! This "serious photography" thing is
> such total and utter crap I don't know where to begin in trying to deal
> it.
> Why is taking a shot of a nude "serious photography," when shooting a
> and child isn't? Why is taking a bunch of mediocre tourist photos of a
> European city "serious photography" when doing good photography of your
> family isn't?"
> I'll make a lot more enemies than I probably already have on this list
> say that the vast majority of what is taken and posted here is incredibly
> mediocre, run of the mill snap shots that everyone either ooooos and
> over, or, as has more recently been the case, plays art critic with - and
> I'm not making an claims to seriousness or greatness myself, believe me!
> there is this really sad belief that if one goes out and takes a
> crappy photo of a bum in the street, but uses a Leica, it's a "serious
> photograph." Or if one takes an utterly vapid shot of two people talking
> a public place, it's meaningful "street photography." Sorry guys, it's
> It's a crappy, derivative, photo of a bum that happened to have been
> with a an overpriced camera. Or a dull, meaningless photo that happens to
> show two people talking, but makes absolutely no statement, conveys no
> says nothing.
> Serious photography is photography by a person with reasonably good
> photographic skills who is serious about what he or she is doing.
> B. D.
> (heading for the bomb shelter.)

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