Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well, I wouldn't go that far! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school OT Opinion > Right...Maybe we can trade the wackjob liberals for a bunch of wackjob > conservatives...;-) > > > Andrew Schroter wrote: > > > Well, all those way out liberal P.C. Profs are going to be leaving? Yeah!!! > > I'm hoping against hope that the next generation will be a more balanced > > lot. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Langer" <mlanger@ccs.carleton.ca> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school > > > > > > > >>>Guy, > >>> > >>I have to differ with you. The Baby Boom generation that has occupied > >> > > most of the professoriate is now on the verge of retirement, and since the > > education cutbacks of the 80s and early 90s > > > >>stopped most faculty renewal in a period when the size of most university > >> > > faculty bodies actually grew smaller, there is going to be a large faculty > > shortage. The shortage of graduate students, > > > >>according to most studies that have been done, is largely due to the > >> > > dramatically increased costs of attending graduate school, plus the fact > > that PhDs salaries in the university sector have not > > > >>kept pace with those offered by the private sector, where PhDs are in far > >> > > greater demand than ever before. This applies not only to areas like > > engineering and computer science, but even to PhDs > > > >>in the humanities. I have no idea where the professoriate of the future > >> > > is coming from, but if there aren't changes to the system that currently > > exists, I worry about the future of higher > > > >>education in North America. > >> > >>Mark > >> > >> > >>>------------------------------ > >>> > >>>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:35:00 -0800 > >>>From: Guy Bennett <gbennett@lainet.com> > >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school. > >>>Message-ID: <v04011705b8288e8a2af7@[66.81.51.16]> > >>>References: <v04011703b828452046ad@[66.81.51.16]> > >>> > >>>>Another factor is that it is pretty hard, at least in my neck of the > >>>> > > woods, > > > >>>>not to bean a couple of humanities PhD graduates with any randomly > >>>> > > thrown > > > >>>>brick. No offence but they are rather thick on the ground. Surprised > >>>> > > there > > > >>>>has not been some sort of mandatory cull yet.[snip] > >>>>John Collier > >>>> > >>>The same is true where I'm from and - I suspect - in the states in > >>> > > general > > > >>>and much of Europe as well. > >>> > >>>Gotta say that I don't think it will be necessary to discourage folks > >>> > > from > > > >>>pursuing advanced degrees in the humanities in the future. The PhD glut > >>> > > of > > > >>>the '80s and '90s coupled with a serious lack of full-time jobs for > >>> > > about > > > >>>ten years now (it's just cheaper to hire twice the number of > >>> > > part-timers) > > > >>>has probably done more to make young students think twice about studying > >>>something as frivolous as philosophy, art or literature than any amount > >>> > > of > > > >>>counseling I could imagine... > >>> > >>>Guy > >>> > >>-- > >>To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html