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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school OT Opinion
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:54:54 -0500
References: <200111270850.AAA17568@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> <3C03B950.9966EF7E@ccs.carleton.ca> <006401c1777a$807744a0$dc53bc18@andrewsc>

Right...Maybe we can trade the wackjob liberals for a bunch of wackjob 
conservatives...;-)


Andrew Schroter wrote:

> Well, all those way out liberal P.C. Profs are going to be leaving? Yeah!!!
> I'm hoping against hope that the next generation will be a more balanced
> lot.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Langer" <mlanger@ccs.carleton.ca>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school
> 
> 
> 
>>>Guy,
>>>
>>I have to differ with you.  The Baby Boom generation that has occupied
>>
> most of the professoriate is now on the verge of retirement, and since the
> education cutbacks of the 80s and early 90s
> 
>>stopped most faculty renewal in a period when the size of most university
>>
> faculty bodies actually grew smaller, there is going to be a large faculty
> shortage.  The shortage of graduate students,
> 
>>according to most studies that have been done, is largely due to the
>>
> dramatically increased costs of attending graduate school, plus the fact
> that PhDs salaries in the university sector have not
> 
>>kept pace with those offered by the private sector, where PhDs are in far
>>
> greater demand than ever before.  This applies not only to areas like
> engineering and computer science, but even to PhDs
> 
>>in the humanities.  I have no idea where the professoriate of the future
>>
> is coming from, but if there aren't changes to the system that currently
> exists, I worry about the future of higher
> 
>>education in North America.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>>------------------------------
>>>
>>>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:35:00 -0800
>>>From: Guy Bennett <gbennett@lainet.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] OT:Photo grad school.
>>>Message-ID: <v04011705b8288e8a2af7@[66.81.51.16]>
>>>References: <v04011703b828452046ad@[66.81.51.16]>
>>>
>>>>Another factor is that it is pretty hard, at least in my neck of the
>>>>
> woods,
> 
>>>>not to bean a couple of humanities PhD graduates with any randomly
>>>>
> thrown
> 
>>>>brick. No offence but they are rather thick on the ground. Surprised
>>>>
> there
> 
>>>>has not been some sort of mandatory cull yet.[snip]
>>>>John Collier
>>>>
>>>The same is true where I'm from and - I suspect - in the states in
>>>
> general
> 
>>>and much of Europe as well.
>>>
>>>Gotta say that I don't think it will be necessary to discourage folks
>>>
> from
> 
>>>pursuing advanced degrees in the humanities in the future. The PhD glut
>>>
> of
> 
>>>the '80s and '90s coupled with a serious lack of full-time jobs for
>>>
> about
> 
>>>ten years now (it's just cheaper to hire twice the number of
>>>
> part-timers)
> 
>>>has probably done more to make young students think twice about studying
>>>something as frivolous as philosophy, art or literature than any amount
>>>
> of
> 
>>>counseling I could imagine...
>>>
>>>Guy
>>>
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