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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: C 41 or conventional B & W film?
From: "Tony Salce" <NadinaTony@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:15:55 +1100
References: <200011230130.RAA22285@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us><000d01c0550b$a7ae67c0$195814cf@z4r4k8><000701c056c8$460d5260$02c9868b@oakhill> <3A1FCF15.1B46DBD9@sympatico.ca> <l03130300b646bd00a287@[216.40.160.190]>

Thank you to all those who replied to my query comcerning black and white
film. Your experience and advice is greatly appreciated.

Tony Salce
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Wilcox" <wilcox@tir.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:16 AM
Subject: [Leica] Re: C 41 or conventional B & W film?


> I used a similar lightproofing technique except I used some aluminum
foiled
> foam such is used for insulation under the siding of the house. I cut it
> just slightly oversize and just forced it in. Lighttight in no time.
>
> Ken Wilcox
>
> At 11:46 -0700 11/25/0, a fine scholar, Paul Arnold wrote:
>
> >In my first darkroom (Chicago apartment) I solved the darkness problem by
> >blocking the two large windows in my kitchen (which fortunately had a
more
> >or less light-proof door) with pieces of window-size plywood. I edged the
> >plywood with weather-stripping projecting past the wood-edge to keep
light
> >out. I added a simple screen-door handle to the middle of each plywood
piece
> >for easy removal from the window.
> >
> >It worked great and I commend it for a darkroom that needs to be light
when
> >not a darkroom.
> >
> >I used the leftover plywood on my stove top (after extinguishing the
pilot
> >light) to hold trays.
> >
> >That was before I had a Leica [now this post is germane].
> >
> >-- Paul
> >Paul Arnold
> >22 Sunrise St.
> >Dillon, Montana
> >Visit MY GALLERY at:
> >http://www.geocities.com/osprey59725/index.html
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Vick Ko" <vick.ko@sympatico.ca>
> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 7:39 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] C 41 or conventional B & W film?
> >
> >
> >> Black and white darkroom is very easy, and a wonderful
> >> way to complete the circle of activities to create a photograph.
> >>
> >> Some of the things that intimidated me with darkroom is
> >> the need for a real dark room.
> >>
> >> For film developing, you can use a changing bag, so no
> >> need for a dark room.
> >>
> >> For the enlarger, now you need a dark room.  I don't know
> >> any way around it.
> >>
> >> For print developing, trays are easiest - and again - need that
> >> dark room.  But trays are so easy - and with a safelight, you
> >> even get good at "judging" the work while it is in progress.
> >>
> >> And for all the other annoyances, eg. dust, drying, curled prints,
> >> well - you develop good technique and all those things get
> >> managed.
> >>
> >> I am trying to learn colour - and all of the above are
> >> scaring me.
> >>
> >> But - the one other big thing - how to find time between
> >> work, family, stuff, to take pictures, and to make pictures.
> >>
> >> Finally, my wife really hates the quality of prints that
> >> our local processors provide, so - I've got nothing to
> >> lose if I make even one better print than they can.
> >>
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> Vick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tony Salce wrote:
> >>
> >> > This question has little to do with Leica. I hope it is not too
> >> > inappropriate for this list. I use a Leica IIIa and a 50mm Summar.
It's
> >a
> >> > wonderful camera and lens. My photography is centred on family and
> >travel. I
> >> > would shoot only say 40- 50 rolls of film a year. I love blalk and
white
> >and
> >> > am tossing up whether to plunge into setting up a darkroom. The cost
of
> >> > laboratory printed black and white is exorbitant here in Australia
and
> >the
> >> > results( in my vew) are average.
> >> >
> >> > Given the amount of shooting I do is it worth setting up a darkroom
or
> >are
> >> > the C41 films, TCN and XP2, the better way to go. How do these films
> >> > iffer( apart from archival qualities)from their more conventional
> >> > counterparts in respect of the final printed image ?
> >> >
> >> > Why is it that your Tri-X and HP5, appear to be favoured as against
Plus
> >X
> >> > or FP4 ?
> >> >
> >> > Your replies would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > King Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Tony Salce
> >>
>
>
> ----
> Ken Wilcox                                Carolyn's Personal Touch
Portraits
>   preferred---> <wilcox@tir.com>
>           <kwilcox@gfn.org>
>
>

In reply to: Message from "Bill Lawlor" <wvl@marinternet.com> ([Leica] Re: Tri-X)
Message from "Tony Salce" <NadinaTony@bigpond.com> ([Leica] C 41 or conventional B & W film?)
Message from Vick Ko <vick.ko@sympatico.ca> (Re: [Leica] C 41 or conventional B & W film?)
Message from Ken Wilcox <wilcox@tir.com> ([Leica] Re: C 41 or conventional B & W film?)