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Subject: [Leica] Re: C 41 or conventional B & W film?
From: Ken Wilcox <wilcox@tir.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 09:16:04 -0400
References: <200011230130.RAA22285@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> <000d01c0550b$a7ae67c0$195814cf@z4r4k8> <000701c056c8$460d5260$02c9868b@oakhill> <3A1FCF15.1B46DBD9@sympatico.ca>

I used a similar lightproofing technique except I used some aluminum foiled
foam such is used for insulation under the siding of the house. I cut it
just slightly oversize and just forced it in. Lighttight in no time.

Ken Wilcox

At 11:46 -0700 11/25/0, a fine scholar, Paul Arnold wrote:

>In my first darkroom (Chicago apartment) I solved the darkness problem by
>blocking the two large windows in my kitchen (which fortunately had a more
>or less light-proof door) with pieces of window-size plywood. I edged the
>plywood with weather-stripping projecting past the wood-edge to keep light
>out. I added a simple screen-door handle to the middle of each plywood piece
>for easy removal from the window.
>
>It worked great and I commend it for a darkroom that needs to be light when
>not a darkroom.
>
>I used the leftover plywood on my stove top (after extinguishing the pilot
>light) to hold trays.
>
>That was before I had a Leica [now this post is germane].
>
>-- Paul
>Paul Arnold
>22 Sunrise St.
>Dillon, Montana
>Visit MY GALLERY at:
>http://www.geocities.com/osprey59725/index.html
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Vick Ko" <vick.ko@sympatico.ca>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 7:39 AM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] C 41 or conventional B & W film?
>
>
>> Black and white darkroom is very easy, and a wonderful
>> way to complete the circle of activities to create a photograph.
>>
>> Some of the things that intimidated me with darkroom is
>> the need for a real dark room.
>>
>> For film developing, you can use a changing bag, so no
>> need for a dark room.
>>
>> For the enlarger, now you need a dark room.  I don't know
>> any way around it.
>>
>> For print developing, trays are easiest - and again - need that
>> dark room.  But trays are so easy - and with a safelight, you
>> even get good at "judging" the work while it is in progress.
>>
>> And for all the other annoyances, eg. dust, drying, curled prints,
>> well - you develop good technique and all those things get
>> managed.
>>
>> I am trying to learn colour - and all of the above are
>> scaring me.
>>
>> But - the one other big thing - how to find time between
>> work, family, stuff, to take pictures, and to make pictures.
>>
>> Finally, my wife really hates the quality of prints that
>> our local processors provide, so - I've got nothing to
>> lose if I make even one better print than they can.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Vick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Salce wrote:
>>
>> > This question has little to do with Leica. I hope it is not too
>> > inappropriate for this list. I use a Leica IIIa and a 50mm Summar. It's
>a
>> > wonderful camera and lens. My photography is centred on family and
>travel. I
>> > would shoot only say 40- 50 rolls of film a year. I love blalk and white
>and
>> > am tossing up whether to plunge into setting up a darkroom. The cost of
>> > laboratory printed black and white is exorbitant here in Australia and
>the
>> > results( in my vew) are average.
>> >
>> > Given the amount of shooting I do is it worth setting up a darkroom or
>are
>> > the C41 films, TCN and XP2, the better way to go. How do these films
>> > iffer( apart from archival qualities)from their more conventional
>> > counterparts in respect of the final printed image ?
>> >
>> > Why is it that your Tri-X and HP5, appear to be favoured as against Plus
>X
>> > or FP4 ?
>> >
>> > Your replies would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > King Regards,
>> >
>> > Tony Salce
>>


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Replies: Reply from "Tony Salce" <NadinaTony@bigpond.com> (Re: [Leica] Re: C 41 or conventional B & W film?)
In reply to: Message from "Bill Lawlor" <wvl@marinternet.com> ([Leica] Re: Tri-X)
Message from "Tony Salce" <NadinaTony@bigpond.com> ([Leica] C 41 or conventional B & W film?)
Message from Vick Ko <vick.ko@sympatico.ca> (Re: [Leica] C 41 or conventional B & W film?)