Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/05/31

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Subject: [Leica] so far off topic it is like most other posts
From: "Guido Soprano" <guidosoprano@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:59:44 EDT

Jim,

filtering? Did you say Filtering? Do I hear FILTERING?
That is discrimination, and as such is likely to have a SWAT team knocking 
on your internet connection. Sounds like your constitution needs some 
amending.

Guido, proponent for rights (and, given time, lefts)



>From: Jim Brick <jim@brick.org>
>Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: [Leica] Re:  Freedom of expression and responsibility
>Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:26:53 -0700
>
>It has been my premise that when speaking on the LUG, or any e-mail list,
>one should speak as if the person (or people) are sitting across from you
>at a table.
>
>Now this is not always easy to do. But one can make a point about an issue
>without name calling and other vulgarities. Just stop and think... after
>calling someone a name, e.g. "stick it Jim", you happen to meet them at a
>LUG gathering, or Leica workshop, or somewhere. What do you say?
>
>One can voice their opinion, even use someone's name in reference to the
>opinion, but to denigrate someone personally, rather than just the opinion,
>can backfire.
>
>Heated discussions frequently take place among scientists, friends,
>gatherings, but it is the ideas and opinions that are taken to task, not
>the person. And a separation should be made.
>
>Those folks that can "only" cast disparaging remarks, do eventually find
>their way into my filter list. Who needs to waste time reading that stuff?
>
>I don't claim to be able to always follow my own advice, but I try.
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>At 10:00 AM 5/31/99 -0700, MarK R. wrote:
> >I was wondering if because of the physical/technical structure of this
> >group: being an Email Reflectorship we would have some more rights than
> >a Newsgroup.
> >A Newsgroup would seem to be a form of broadcasting but we are just a
> >controlled distribution of E Mails. A group of friends sitting around
> >talking; or 777 of them.
> >As there is probably no precedent for trying to prove a libel or some
> >such case against a discussion in a Email list or even a newsgroup that
> >makes it hard to determine.
> >Mark Rabiner
> >


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