[Leica] IMGS: B&W

Mon Mar 4 07:14:07 PST 2019

Yes, I see what you mean.  I don't use the color filters in Silver Efex
with the Monochrome files.  I use contrast and structure and brightness
which do affect the files.  I have made some presets that I use on most
Monochrome files and also those that I convert from color to B&W.  I still
find I get better results with Silver Efex than not.

Tina

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:22 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Tina,
>
> I have verified to apply diferent color filters with Silver Efex Pro on
> B&W pictures from the Monochrom, or from film, or from converted to B&W
> from M9 and the tones applying the filters don’t change at all. Because
> once a file is converted to B&W the three color channels information
> disappear, this is as well the basic concept to convert a sensor to a only
> B&W sensor, eliminating the called Bayer filter on the sensor.
>
> A different thing is when you are converting a file from any color camera
> M9 etc…, you can apply the desired filter for change the effect on the B&W
> conversion, but once is converted, at least me, I have no possibility to
> modify it acting on the filers or color channels.
>
> Please let me konw if you can do it, maybe I’m doing a wrong operation,
> thank you!
>
> Cheers
> Lluis
>
>
>
> > El 4 març 2019, a les 1:34, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> va escriure:
> >
> > I don't understand that Lluis.  When I apply Sliver Efex to MM images it
> > definitely makes a difference in the tones.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:32 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Tina,
> >>
> >> If you apply a filter to a B&W picture from the Monochrom it makes no
> >> effect on the tones, neither with Silver Efex Pro.
> >>
> >> lluis
> >>
> >>
> >>> El 4 març 2019, a les 1:09, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> va escriure:
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color.  I, however,
> >> would
> >>> not use actual filters on Leica lenses.  Any glass in front of the lens
> >>> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares.
> >> That's
> >>> one area that I think digital is better.  Take the photo with the MM
> and
> >>> apply the digital filter later.  That way you still have the
> >>> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you
> want,
> >>> after the fact.  I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W.
> >>>
> >>> Tina
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do black
> >> and
> >>>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back.
> >>>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once I
> >> see
> >>>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always
> know
> >>>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years
> later
> >>>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the color
> >> when
> >>>> I photoshop it again.
> >>>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome or
> >>>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in
> filters
> >> as
> >>>> I don’t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was the
> >> 060
> >>>> B+W yellow green.  Is B+W  still in business it was owned by JSK
> >> Schneider?
> >>>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the
> >> green
> >>>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people
> in
> >> to
> >>>> creatures from another planet.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>>> Photographer
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
> >>>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> >>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>   PESO:
> >>>>
> >>>>   I posted a few B&W's from night markets:
> >>>>
> >>>>   https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023
> >>>>
> >>>>   And next.
> >>>>
> >>>>   I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but
> they
> >>>> are
> >>>>   usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W.
> >>>>
> >>>>   TIA for any comments.
> >>>>
> >>>>   Tina
> >>>>
> >>>>   --
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> >>>>
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