[Leica] IMGS: B&W

[Lluis Ripoll]

Tina,

I have verified to apply diferent color filters with Silver Efex Pro on B&W pictures from the Monochrom, or from film, or from converted to B&W from M9 and the tones applying the filters don’t change at all. Because once a file is converted to B&W the three color channels information disappear, this is as well the basic concept to convert a sensor to a only B&W sensor, eliminating the called Bayer filter on the sensor.

A different thing is when you are converting a file from any color camera M9 etc…, you can apply the desired filter for change the effect on the B&W conversion, but once is converted, at least me, I have no possibility to modify it acting on the filers or color channels.

Please let me konw if you can do it, maybe I’m doing a wrong operation, thank you!

Cheers
Lluis

 

> El 4 març 2019, a les 1:34, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
> 
> I don't understand that Lluis.  When I apply Sliver Efex to MM images it
> definitely makes a difference in the tones.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:32 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Tina,
>> 
>> If you apply a filter to a B&W picture from the Monochrom it makes no
>> effect on the tones, neither with Silver Efex Pro.
>> 
>> lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 4 març 2019, a les 1:09, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color.  I, however,
>> would
>>> not use actual filters on Leica lenses.  Any glass in front of the lens
>>> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares.
>> That's
>>> one area that I think digital is better.  Take the photo with the MM and
>>> apply the digital filter later.  That way you still have the
>>> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you want,
>>> after the fact.  I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do black
>> and
>>>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back.
>>>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once I
>> see
>>>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always know
>>>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years later
>>>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the color
>> when
>>>> I photoshop it again.
>>>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome or
>>>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in filters
>> as
>>>> I don’t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was the
>> 060
>>>> B+W yellow green.  Is B+W  still in business it was owned by JSK
>> Schneider?
>>>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the
>> green
>>>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people in
>> to
>>>> creatures from another planet.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photographer
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
>>>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   PESO:
>>>> 
>>>>   I posted a few B&W's from night markets:
>>>> 
>>>>   https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023
>>>> 
>>>>   And next.
>>>> 
>>>>   I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but they
>>>> are
>>>>   usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W.
>>>> 
>>>>   TIA for any comments.
>>>> 
>>>>   Tina
>>>> 
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