[Leica] It's all your fault

Nathan Wajsman photo at frozenlight.eu
Sun May 13 11:43:13 PDT 2018


Right on. I do not even have Photoshop anymore. LR is more than enough. If I have to spend 1/2 hour manipulating an image in a piece of software to make it look decent, then I have screwed up at the time of taking the picture.

Cheers,
Nathan

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> On 13 May 2018, at 20:29, Aram via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Seldom and with resentment?  I don't think so.  I will wager that most 
> people who use LR use it as their main tool for photography.  I so rarely go 
> to PS now.  LR is so much easier and does 99.9% of what I want to do.  I 
> import directly into it, organize, keyword, name my photos there.  Do almost 
> all my processing there, with the exception of blending photos for Depth of 
> Field, and the rare major editing I need to do as far as removing objects 
> that I could not perform while taking the photo or in LR.  I do all my 
> printing and exporting to share in LR.  Photoshop is ALMOST a waste of time 
> and hard drive space.      ALMOST....
> 
> It took a while to get there from PS, but starting with the first version of 
> LR, and getting use to the mindset of nondestructive editing, there is no 
> resentment in using LR.  The only resentment is towards the subscription 
> model that Adobe and others have started to use.
> 
> Aram
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 12:41 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] It's all your fault
> 
> The reason why everyone does not switch and join up right off the bat is 
> because we're talking about software that a large percentage of people use 
> seldom and with resentment. They'd rather just skip it.
> What's wanted is for photography now to be like in the good old days when 
> you clicked it and forgot it. Just remember which drug store you brought it 
> too.  People want a hands off approach to photography. They want it un 
> touched by human hands especially their own..
> It's one thing to buy cheap software but paying for it every month seems 
> like one is sending off the wrong message. And the message is "I can't be 
> bothered". And they really want everyone who does care to hear it. Often.
> The majority of photo enthusiasts could more accurately be called camera 
> enthusiasts who could more accurately be called money enthusiasts.
> You can't really call them camera lovers as cameras just pass though their 
> hands like its nothing.
> Making a commitment to the final result of their images is so far beyond the 
> point it's not even funny.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
> 
> On 5/12/18, 10:55 PM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG" 
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of 
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
>    I still cannot, for the life of me, understand why everybody does not
>    switch, it is that convenient and at a very reasonable cost. Is cutting
>    your nose to spite your face standard practice?
> 
>    As John Maynard Keynes once replied to a reporter who accused him of
>    changing his mind - "If the facts change, sir, I change my mind. Pray 
> what
>    do you do?" :-)
> 
>    Cheers
>    Jayanand
> 
>    On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>    wrote:
> 
>> Well, I just drank the kool-aid (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>> Drinking_the_Kool-Aid if you don't know what that means), and then 
> bought
>> a year's subscription to Adobe CC. There were too many "last straw"
>> situations and I found I was wasting time trying to find workarounds.
>> 
>> I know I can still use my trusty Photoshop CS6 and Dreamweaver CS6 if
>> needed, but InDesign CS6 is generating warning messages from the 
> operating
>> system and Camera Raw CS6 fell out of its wheelchair.
>> 
>> Thanks for all of the commentary and opinions.
>> 
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