[Leica] WW: Are you ever too cautious ...

Don Dory don.dory at gmail.com
Fri Apr 13 04:19:34 PDT 2018 

Literacy in America is an interesting problem.  We have an extremely diverse population and a large relatively new immigrant population.  Taking Atlanta as an example we have a critical mass of Spanish speakers, Vietnamese speakers, several dialects of Chinese, most Indian languages, and most European languages for those speakers to rarely have to speak English if they choose not to.

Traditionally, the education system trained the children in English so the second generation would blend the two cultures.  Today, not so much.  Our schools would do well to use the International Schools habit of instruction in at least two languages for a whole host of reasons.

So, without going extremely long, the non English speaking communities are large enough that there is no reason to learn English to pay the bills and the education system allows students to graduate without a well grounded knowledge of the base language.

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> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
> 
> It's probably a literacy problem. Isn't the literacy level in the US pretty poor for a first world country compared to others?  A higher proportion of people in America just can't read. That's probably why when you walk down the city streets of Europe - Dublin or Barcelona for instance - wearing a Leica around your neck, the more literate thieves in Europe recognise the writing, whip it off you, and scarper toute suite. In Dublin, sages say some people would steal the eye out of your head and then come back for the lashes.
> 
> Douglas
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>> On 11/04/2018 14:51, Don Dory via LUG wrote:
>> Les, I have thought of that.  At least in Atlanta, New York City, and
>> Austin if you qualify for various aid then you can get an extremely reduced
>> price monthly pass.  An extreme example is a friends son is a graduate
>> student in Chicago and his fare is zero as long as he is a student.  When
>> you snuffle around the various sites you can find the various fares.
>> 
>> Instead, I think this is an educational issue.  You have to know something
>> is out there before you spend time looking.  I know that Austin and Atlanta
>> have very well done phone apps; also both cities have pretty well sited
>> public libraries that have many kiosks for internet access at no charge.
>> So, first you have to know something is possible.  Second you have to have
>> the free time to research.  Third, you might have to have enough cash to
>> get where you want to go.
>> 
>> Helping people in need is far harder than it would seem from a well
>> educated, relatively well off financial position, with the free time to
>> engage in what if scenarios.  As an example, I was tired of the ridiculous
>> car rental fares in Austin especially near SXSW or the formula one race so
>> spent some time researching CapMetro in Austin.  It turns out they have a
>> route from the airport to within four blocks from my house there at a fare
>> of $2.50.  Now the time part, the first time I attempted to use this I
>> boarded the wrong bus and ended up at a small college.  With a little help
>> from helpful staff who did speak english but possibly not Spanish I found I
>> could catch the correct bus from my then current location.  The take away
>> is that if I spoke only Spanish and had a time deadline then this would not
>> work and could have had serious economic consequences.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Les Myers <baroque-2 at inbox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It could be that low income riders don't have enough cash at any one time
>>> to take advantage of the multiple-ride savings.
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lug at leica-users.org
>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 06:28:22 -0400
>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] WW: Are you ever too cautious ...
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Nathan, you are not paying the driver as that would lead to robberies.
>>>> You put your money in a machine that is really designed to accept a a
>>>> card
>>>> or mobile phone bar code.  There is some misguided management that still
>>>> takes cash on the bus.  I prefer to purchase multiple rides as they
>>>> discount the cost and it speeds up boarding.
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I use public transport a fair amount, not at home but when I travel
>>>>> (which
>>>>> is frequently). In none of the places I go to (most often Brussels, but
>>>>> also Madrid, Barcelona, Paris, Copenhagen etc.) is it possible to pay
>>>>> the
>>>>> driver. Either you have a card of some sort or you have bought a
>>>>> single-ride ticket from a machine before getting on the bus. Or you pay
>>>>> with your mobile.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
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>>>>>> On 10 Apr 2018, at 21:38, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Likewise, I am always amazed at the regular riders on the local mass
>>>>>> transit carefully dole coins into the till.  You sabe a bundle by
>>>>>> buying
>>>>> a
>>>>>> months ride and tben have a fare card to tap yoir way in.  In those
>>>>>> stops
>>>>>> with more than three or four new passengers it takes a wbile.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 2:55 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Please view large
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Thailand/2018-
>>>>> Tha__lande-PA-1885.jpg.html
>>>>>>> Context info : it took her 5mn at least to painstakingly excavate and
>>>>>>> reluctantly produce this note out of her handbag and finally pay for
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> (cheap) fare …
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amities
>>>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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