[Leica] Green Shadows Example

[Tina Manley]

PS:  I had a few sheets of Ilford Gold Mono Silk and tried those just out
of curiosity.  They came out fine - beautiful color prints.  It's just the
Gold Fibre Silk that is a problem.

Tina

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Chris!  I spent the morning watching your video which was
> outstanding and very informative.  I learned a lot!  However, following the
> directions for using the Epson Color Controls (the Windows version is
> different from the Mac but I think I got everything right) the print on the
> Ilford Gold Silk paper was about 10x worse!!   The green shadows were
> unbelievably bad.  I printed it again with 1.8 Gamma chosen and it was
> slightly better but still much worse than letting LightRoom apply the
> Ilford profile.
>
> The only way I've managed to get rid of the green shadows is to change to
> another paper.  The Canson Platine print is beautiful, but that paper is
> $132 for 25 sheets of 13x19!!
>
> I've ordered some Hahnemuhle Silk Baryata that I hope will work.  It's not
> cheap either!
>
> I'm also beginning to think I should have gotten the Epson P800 instead of
> the 1430 Artisan when I got a new printer.  I may order one if I can figure
> out how to justify the cost!!
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Tina
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Christopher Crawford <
> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>
>> Tina,
>>
>> I have used Ilford Gold Fibre Silk for years for both color and BW prints.
>> The Ilford Profile is the problem. It also renders saturated blues as
>> purple, most frustrating in landscapes with blue skies.
>>
>> Here’s what I do for color printing with it:
>>
>> 1) In Lightroom or Photoshop, set your printing for “Printer Manages
>> Colors.” You won’t be using a profile, we’re going to let the Epson driver
>> handle color management.
>>
>> 2) In the Epson driver, set the media type to “Premium Semigloss.” Set
>> Color Settings to “Epson Color Controls.” In the Print Settings screen,
>> choose “Advanced Settings” and choose either sRGB or Adobe RGB. Choose the
>> one that corresponds to the colorspace the image you’re printing is in.
>>
>> 3) Prints will have much more accurate color but may look slightly too
>> dark. In the advanced settings, changing the Gamma from 2.2 to 1.8 will
>> lighten the image enough to overcome that, though some occasionally look
>> too light most will print perfectly this way.
>>
>> I made a video tutorial you can watch on how to do this:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/roWAfDfyCTA
>>
>> I hope this fixes your color problem. If not, you’re going to have to
>> switch to another paper, or pay someone to do a custom profile for you.
>>
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>>
>> On 4/8/18, 8:59 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>
>> >I can't explain it then because I used the exact same digital photo and
>> >profile and on the Ilford paper there are green shadows.  On the Canson
>> >there are no green shadows.  I'll take an iphone photo of the Canson one
>> >tomorrow and post it.  Jayanand said he had problems with color casts in
>> >the Ilford paper and used it only for B&W.
>> >
>> >I ordered Hahnemuhle which was quite a bit more expensive but I hope I
>> >won't waste as much as I have on the Ilford!
>> >
>> >Tina
>> >
>> >On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Paper cannot synthesize or create green ink.
>> >> Profiles can.
>> >>
>> >>
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