[Leica] Green Shadows Example

[Tina Manley]

Thanks, Chris!  I spent the morning watching your video which was
outstanding and very informative.  I learned a lot!  However, following the
directions for using the Epson Color Controls (the Windows version is
different from the Mac but I think I got everything right) the print on the
Ilford Gold Silk paper was about 10x worse!!   The green shadows were
unbelievably bad.  I printed it again with 1.8 Gamma chosen and it was
slightly better but still much worse than letting LightRoom apply the
Ilford profile.

The only way I've managed to get rid of the green shadows is to change to
another paper.  The Canson Platine print is beautiful, but that paper is
$132 for 25 sheets of 13x19!!

I've ordered some Hahnemuhle Silk Baryata that I hope will work.  It's not
cheap either!

I'm also beginning to think I should have gotten the Epson P800 instead of
the 1430 Artisan when I got a new printer.  I may order one if I can figure
out how to justify the cost!!

Thanks for your help.

Tina

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Christopher Crawford <
chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:

> Tina,
>
> I have used Ilford Gold Fibre Silk for years for both color and BW prints.
> The Ilford Profile is the problem. It also renders saturated blues as
> purple, most frustrating in landscapes with blue skies.
>
> Here’s what I do for color printing with it:
>
> 1) In Lightroom or Photoshop, set your printing for “Printer Manages
> Colors.” You won’t be using a profile, we’re going to let the Epson driver
> handle color management.
>
> 2) In the Epson driver, set the media type to “Premium Semigloss.” Set
> Color Settings to “Epson Color Controls.” In the Print Settings screen,
> choose “Advanced Settings” and choose either sRGB or Adobe RGB. Choose the
> one that corresponds to the colorspace the image you’re printing is in.
>
> 3) Prints will have much more accurate color but may look slightly too
> dark. In the advanced settings, changing the Gamma from 2.2 to 1.8 will
> lighten the image enough to overcome that, though some occasionally look
> too light most will print perfectly this way.
>
> I made a video tutorial you can watch on how to do this:
>
> https://youtu.be/roWAfDfyCTA
>
> I hope this fixes your color problem. If not, you’re going to have to
> switch to another paper, or pay someone to do a custom profile for you.
>
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> On 4/8/18, 8:59 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
> >I can't explain it then because I used the exact same digital photo and
> >profile and on the Ilford paper there are green shadows.  On the Canson
> >there are no green shadows.  I'll take an iphone photo of the Canson one
> >tomorrow and post it.  Jayanand said he had problems with color casts in
> >the Ilford paper and used it only for B&W.
> >
> >I ordered Hahnemuhle which was quite a bit more expensive but I hope I
> >won't waste as much as I have on the Ilford!
> >
> >Tina
> >
> >On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Paper cannot synthesize or create green ink.
> >> Profiles can.
> >>
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