[Leica] IMGS: Tests with MM and M246

Tina Manley images at comporium.net
Fri Feb 12 07:32:26 PST 2016


Thank you, Aram!  I'm glad somebody understands what I'm doing and why!!

Tina

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Right.  She is not testing the camera or lens.  She is testing the
> photographic system, which includes the photographer and the environment in
> which the system is working.  Real life tests will tell you how the system
> will perform in the world in which you are working.  A test of the system
> has to include all variables as variables.  The test of one item has to
> control all variables.  Apples oranges.  Who cares what the camera alone
> can do if you will never be using it under those controlled conditions?
>
> Keep testing and learning how the system works.  I look forward to the
> amazing photos it will produce in your hands.
>
> Aram
>
>
>
> Aram Langhans
> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
> & Unemployed photographer
>
> “The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself
> would ever have dared dream.” James D. Watson
> -----Original Message----- From: Ken Iisaka
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: Tests with MM and M246
>
> It all boils down to what you're testing for.
>
> If you are comparing the image quality in a strict manner, you have to
> eliminate as many variables as possible.
>
> But again, if the testing is for whether I enjoy using this camera, and no
> more than that, there is no need to a tripod.
>
> Both tests, at the most elemental level, and at the aggregate level, are
> valid. But Tina's tests do not show whether M264 has better image
> qualities. It tests whether she can produce better results with M264 or
> not, where the image quality is an aggregate of resolution, dynamic range
> and other attributes, as well as handling, and other more subjected
> attributes.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
>
> Nothing wrong with "do I like to photograph with the camera and do the
>> output looks good" subjective tests.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM, George Lottermoser <
>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > As I have said before, I do not do controlled tests on tripods.  I do
>> > real
>> > > life tests the way I would use the cameras.  Tripod tests would be of
>> no
>> > > use to me since I never use a tripod.  I hold the camera or prop it on
>> > the
>> > > nearest post.  It works for me, maybe not for others.
>> >
>> > The question then becomes:
>> > What qualities, or variables are you testing for?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > George Lottermoser
>> >
>> > http://www.imagist.com
>> > http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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