[Leica] IMGS: Tests with MM and M246

[Steve Barbour]

Exactly right

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> On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:24 AM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Right.  She is not testing the camera or lens.  She is testing the photographic system, which includes the photographer and the environment in which the system is working.  Real life tests will tell you how the system will perform in the world in which you are working.  A test of the system has to include all variables as variables.  The test of one item has to control all variables.  Apples oranges.  Who cares what the camera alone can do if you will never be using it under those controlled conditions?
> 
> Keep testing and learning how the system works.  I look forward to the amazing photos it will produce in your hands.
> 
> Aram
> 
> 
> 
> Aram Langhans
> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
> & Unemployed photographer
> 
> “The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself would ever have dared dream.” James D. Watson
> -----Original Message----- From: Ken Iisaka
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: Tests with MM and M246
> 
> It all boils down to what you're testing for.
> 
> If you are comparing the image quality in a strict manner, you have to
> eliminate as many variables as possible.
> 
> But again, if the testing is for whether I enjoy using this camera, and no
> more than that, there is no need to a tripod.
> 
> Both tests, at the most elemental level, and at the aggregate level, are
> valid. But Tina's tests do not show whether M264 has better image
> qualities. It tests whether she can produce better results with M264 or
> not, where the image quality is an aggregate of resolution, dynamic range
> and other attributes, as well as handling, and other more subjected
> attributes.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Nothing wrong with "do I like to photograph with the camera and do the
>> output looks good" subjective tests.
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM, George Lottermoser <
>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > As I have said before, I do not do controlled tests on tripods.  I do
>> > real
>> > > life tests the way I would use the cameras.  Tripod tests would be of
>> no
>> > > use to me since I never use a tripod.  I hold the camera or prop it on
>> > the
>> > > nearest post.  It works for me, maybe not for others.
>> >
>> > The question then becomes:
>> > What qualities, or variables are you testing for?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > George Lottermoser
>> >
>> > http://www.imagist.com
>> > http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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