[Leica] IMPORTANT: LUGbook 2015
Steve Barbour
steve.barbour at gmail.com
Sat Dec 19 13:29:18 PST 2015
thanks Ted, Merry Christmas.
steve
> On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hey CREW, J
>
> This is "KISS SIMPLE" SUGGESTION 2015! J
>
> WE ALL STOP COMMENTING AND LET RICHARD DO HIS THIING AS AN "EXPERIMENTAL"
> EFFORT OF OUR crew photos?
>
> We all might be blown out of the water with its "GREATNESS OF ARTISTRY?"
>
> If it works and looks beautiful in the eyes of the majority? And Richard
> wishes to do the book for 2016? We let him do his thing. If he wishes not
> to become involved 2016? Well let's leave that for 2016?
>
> Right now, why not all have another coffee, take another deep breath of
> fresh-air and have a nice day. J
>
> There you go. "KISS SIMPLE!" Sure better than whining bitching and
> complaining!
>
> Thank you. Have a nice day.
>
> CHEERS,
>
> Dr.ted
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Robert Adler
> Sent: December-19-15 1:02 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMPORTANT: LUGbook 2015
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> Please explain what this means, "The image size will be maximized." Are you
>
> changing the size of images selected? Will that cause distortion or
>
> cropping.
>
>
>
> I am going against the grain of support expressed so far. I don't care if
>
> my images are together or not. I think a unilateral decision by the person
>
> who has volunteered to compile the work of our group to suddenly self
>
> promote themselves to "editor" is pretentious. Quite frankly, I've never
>
> seen your editing work nor that of your wife who has, as I believe you
>
> stated, more artistic talent than you. I am concerned that suddenly we have
>
> an "editor" with no evidence of editing capability.
>
>
>
> I always thought of this as a group project. Now it has become more of a
>
> "bound gallery" project with a self appointed gallery editor. I'm glad you
>
> recognize that this is a last minute change. But stating, "The image size
>
> will be maximized" is not something I understand. If I sized an image for
>
> the right side of a page, will it remain on the right side of a page? Now
>
> you say the pages will only have titles and we will need to see who took it
>
> by looking in the back of the book. Another global change without
>
> discussion. Unilateral, last minute, no explanation of why that's better
>
> nor asking for input, nor evidencing your experience as to why this is
>
> better.
>
>
>
> I understand those who speak loudest and contribute often to this group are
>
> expressing support. I do know, from private emails, others are upset with
>
> this coupe and we will not be seeing their images.
>
>
>
> So be my $0.02.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>
> wrote:
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>
>
>> Hi Tina, thank you for your comment. First, anyone who wants to swap or
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>> send an additional photo, please feel free.
>
>>
>
>> The image size will be maximized. For caption, my plan is to put the short
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>> caption/title (e.g. "Snow Fall") under and the full attribution on a back
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>> page. One or two people have specified that they want full bleed on an
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>> image or two, so those will be honored, as with any other placement
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>> requests.
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>>
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>> There is one panoramic image (not mine :-) ) that I have decided to put as
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>> the center, taking two pages. Otherwise, I do not feel we can appreciate
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>> the power of that image. Once I start making decision like that, it just
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>> seems natural to follow to the more logical conclusion.
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>>
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>>
>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
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>>
>
>>> I agree that if we had known ahead of time, some of us might have chosen
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>>> different photos. I chose mine to go together. If I had thought they
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>>> would be in different places in the book, I would have chosen
> stand-alone
>
>>> photos. I'm not objecting strongly, though. It is your decision. How
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>>> will the captions work now and will the facing photos be the same size?
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>>>
>
>>> Tina
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>>>
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>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Richard Man <
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>> richard at richardmanphoto.com>
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>>> wrote:
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>>>
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>>>> Dear LUG family and contributors:
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I have a received a strong objection to making the change.
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>> Fundamentally,
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>>>> it comes down to two things:
>
>>>>
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>>>> First, the nature of the policy change is unexpected and last minute.
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>> It
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>>> is
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>>>> true, if I have made the decision early on and made the announcement
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>>>> earlier, then people who may object to this policy can debate or
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>> withhold
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>>>> contributions. For this I apologize.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Second, there are questions of my exerting artistic preference over
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>> that
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>>> of
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>>>> the contributors. I need to digest this, as the mere fact that an
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>> editor
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>>>> has to sequence the contributors in some ways regardless, even if we
> do
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>>> it
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>>>> simply by the first name or last name or other arbitrary ordering,
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>> it's a
>
>>>> decision on our parts.
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>>>>
>
>>>> The person is correct that this is not "my book", but nominally a "LUG
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>>> year
>
>>>> book" although even there we have strayed a bit in previous years by
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>>>> inviting other people into the fold.
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>>>>
>
>>>> I am somewhat torn on this and I welcome any discussion. I am not
>
>> looking
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>>>> for sympathy, or people to "beat up" on the person. I know from
>
>> feedback
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>>>> that someone will be unhappy regardless. However, personally I am more
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>>>> concerned that it is true that I did not make the policy change early,
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>>> and
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>>>> this would appear to be a "bait and switch".
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>>>>
>
>>>> Thank you.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Gene Duprey <geneduprey2015 at gmail.com
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>>>
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>>>> wrote:
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>>>>
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>>>>> Make it your production, If you want to mix the photos, then I'm OK
>
>>> with
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>>>>> it.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Gene
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <
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>> hopsternew at gmail.com
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>>>>
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>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>
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>>>>>> Your call! Why not put your own stamp on the production?
>
>>>>>> Shall be interested to see how this works out...my ex-editor brain
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>> is
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>>>>>> fascinated!
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>
> ............................................................................
> ......................................................
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> While working on the book, I am making an executive decision: I
>
>> will
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>>>>>> sequence the images in some order, and not 2 consecutive images
> per
>
>>>>>> submitter like previous years.
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Per usual, I will not edit the images in any way, and the caption
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>> and
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>>>> any
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>>>>>> image placement preference (e.g. some people want full bleed) will
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>> be
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>>>>>> honored.
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> If you have strong feeling that your photos must be kept together,
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>>>> please
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>>>>>> email me.
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Thanks!
>
>>>>>>
>
>>>>>> --
>
>>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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>>>>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
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>>>>>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Cheers
>
>>>>>> Geoff
>
>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
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>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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>>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
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>>>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> --
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>>> Tina Manley
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>>> http://
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>>> <
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>>>
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>>> www.tinamanley.com
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>> --
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>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
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>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
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> --
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> Bob Adler
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> www.robertadlerphotography.com
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