[Leica] IMPORTANT: LUGbook 2015

Ted Grant tedgrant at shaw.ca
Sat Dec 19 08:52:46 PST 2015 

Hey CREW,  J

This is "KISS SIMPLE" SUGGESTION 2015! J

WE ALL STOP COMMENTING AND LET RICHARD DO HIS THIING AS AN "EXPERIMENTAL"
EFFORT OF OUR crew photos?

We all might be blown out of the water with its "GREATNESS OF ARTISTRY?" 

If it works and looks  beautiful in the eyes of the majority? And Richard
wishes to do the book for 2016? We let him do his thing.  If he wishes not
to become involved 2016? Well let's leave that for 2016?

Right now, why not all have another coffee, take another deep breath of
fresh-air and have a nice day. J

There you go. "KISS SIMPLE!" Sure better than whining bitching and
complaining!

Thank you. Have a nice day.

CHEERS,

Dr.ted

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Adler
Sent: December-19-15 1:02 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMPORTANT: LUGbook 2015

 

Richard,

 

Please explain what this means, "The image size will be maximized." Are you

changing the size of images selected? Will that cause distortion or

cropping.

 

I am going against the grain of support expressed so far. I don't care if

my images are together or not. I think a unilateral decision by the person

who has volunteered to compile the work of our group to suddenly self

promote themselves to "editor" is pretentious. Quite frankly, I've never

seen your editing work nor that of your wife who has, as I believe you

stated, more artistic talent than you. I am concerned that suddenly we have

an "editor" with no evidence of editing capability.

 

I always thought of this as a group project. Now it has become more of a

"bound gallery" project with a self appointed gallery editor. I'm glad you

recognize that this is a last minute change. But stating, "The image size

will be maximized" is not something I understand. If I sized an image for

the right side of a page, will it remain on the right side of a page? Now

you say the pages will only have titles and we will need to see who took it

by looking in the back of the book. Another global change without

discussion. Unilateral, last minute, no explanation of why that's better

nor asking for input, nor evidencing your experience as to why this is

better.

 

I understand those who speak loudest and contribute often to this group are

expressing support. I do know, from private emails, others are upset with

this coupe and we will not be seeing their images.

 

So be my $0.02.

Best,

Bob

 

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>

wrote:

 

> Hi Tina, thank you for your comment. First, anyone who wants to swap or

> send an additional photo, please feel free.

> 

> The image size will be maximized. For caption, my plan is to put the short

> caption/title (e.g. "Snow Fall") under and the full attribution on a back

> page. One or two people have specified that they want full bleed on an

> image or two, so those will be honored, as with any other placement

> requests.

> 

> There is one panoramic image (not mine :-) ) that I have decided to put as

> the center, taking two pages. Otherwise, I do not feel we can appreciate

> the power of that image. Once I start making decision like that, it just

> seems natural to follow to the more logical conclusion.

> 

> 

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> 

> > I agree that if we had known ahead of time, some of us might have chosen

> > different photos.  I chose mine to go together.  If I had thought they

> > would be in different places in the book, I would have chosen
stand-alone

> > photos.  I'm not objecting strongly, though.  It is your decision.  How

> > will the captions work now and will the facing photos be the same size?

> >

> > Tina

> >

> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Richard Man <

> richard at richardmanphoto.com>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear LUG family and contributors:

> > >

> > > I have a received a strong objection to making the change.

> Fundamentally,

> > > it comes down to two things:

> > >

> > > First, the nature of the policy change is unexpected and last minute.

> It

> > is

> > > true, if I have made the decision early on and made the announcement

> > > earlier, then people who may object to this policy can debate or

> withhold

> > > contributions. For this I apologize.

> > >

> > > Second, there are questions of my exerting artistic preference over

> that

> > of

> > > the contributors. I need to digest this, as the mere fact that an

> editor

> > > has to sequence the contributors in some ways regardless, even if we
do

> > it

> > > simply by the first name or last name or other arbitrary ordering,

> it's a

> > > decision on our parts.

> > >

> > > The person is correct that this is not "my book", but nominally a "LUG

> > year

> > > book" although even there we have strayed a bit in previous years by

> > > inviting other people into the fold.

> > >

> > > I am somewhat torn on this and I welcome any discussion. I am not

> looking

> > > for sympathy, or people to "beat up" on the person. I know from

> feedback

> > > that someone will be unhappy regardless. However, personally I am more

> > > concerned that it is true that I did not make the policy change early,

> > and

> > > this would appear to be a "bait and switch".

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Gene Duprey <geneduprey2015 at gmail.com

> >

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Make it your production, If you want to mix the photos, then I'm OK

> > with

> > > > it.

> > > >

> > > > Gene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <

> hopsternew at gmail.com

> > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Your call! Why not put your own stamp on the production?

> > > > > Shall be interested to see how this works out...my ex-editor brain

> is

> > > > > fascinated!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>
............................................................................
......................................................

> > > > >

> > > > > While working on the book, I am making an executive decision: I

> will

> > > > > sequence the images in some order, and not 2 consecutive images
per

> > > > > submitter like previous years.

> > > > >

> > > > > Per usual, I will not edit the images in any way, and the caption

> and

> > > any

> > > > > image placement preference (e.g. some people want full bleed) will

> be

> > > > > honored.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you have strong feeling that your photos must be kept together,

> > > please

> > > > > email me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>

> > > > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto

> > > > > // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers

> > > > > Geoff

> > > > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman

> > > > >

> > > > > _______________________________________________

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> information

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > _______________________________________________

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> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>

> > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto

> > > // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto

> > >

> > > _______________________________________________

> > > Leica Users Group.

> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Tina Manley

> > http://

> > <

> >

>
http://t.sidekickopen32.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgfm
KYPW4WzBHl3Mx_9dW3LqWkM56dQ1Jf7P8b5b02?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftina-manley.artistwebs
ites.com%2F&si=6038418186567680&pi=ae97ce3e-b1e2-4502-8cce-e6a0df4eaf3e

> > >

> > www.tinamanley.com

> > http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/

> >

> > _______________________________________________

> > Leica Users Group.

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> >

> 

> 

> 

> --

> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>

> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto

> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto

> 

> _______________________________________________

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> 

 

 

 

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Bob Adler

www.robertadlerphotography.com

 

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