[Leica] Buying Leica gear from Hong Kong

[Nathan Wajsman]

Yes, this is a common way to find that you have bought a fake, when the serial number turns out invalid.

As for Danish laws, they just made the sensible decision that they are not going to prosecute someone who has been on holiday in ALicante, say, and comes home with a handbag bought on the beach here (in any event, since this is an intra-EU trip, there are no customs checks). It is in fact illegal to buy the same bag online, however, but again, it makes little sense to prosecute the purchaser.

As for copying content that you bought to other media (for yourself or your household), Danish laws are like most of the rest of Europe. The outlier here has been the UK where it was illegal to make a copy for yourself (e.g. to rip one of your own CDs into iTunes) until very recently. I believe that this silly law has now been changed.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
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> On 10 Dec 2015, at 14:31, Piers Hemy <piers.hemy at gmail.com> wrote:
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> You have reminded me of the ZD lens I bought over the counter in HK some years ago, Nathan. It appeared to be completely genuine, from an established well-known vendor. As with most of the range, the lens was manufactured in PRC. When I came to register it on the Olympus website, the serial number was rejected as invalid. Thus, while I knew I would not have the Olympus European 2-year warranty for a lens bought in HK, I ended up with no warranty at all.
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> I have to assume that as well as outright counterfeiting, there is off-the-records manufacturing taking place, whereby perhaps an order for a batch of 1000 ends up in 1050 being produced, and the surplus sold off "from the back door". 
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> But, since you mention your professional interest, can I ask your reaction to the advice given here: <http://www.stopfakes.dk/consumer/consumer-guide/what-is-illegal-in-denmark.aspx> which seems to suggest that Denmark has a somewhat relaxed attitude. Or is it simply that the Danish government admits the reality that other governments do not, that action against consumer users of counterfeit goods is unlikely?
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> Piers
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Wajsman
> Sent: 10 December 2015 05:31
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Buying Leica gear from Hong Kong
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> I was wondering as well. Also about whether the items he sells are genuine. As I follow trends in counterfeiting closely as part of my job, I can tell you that everything, from the most trivial household item to luxury items like Leica cameras, can be counterfeited, and IS counterfeited. And I do not need to tell you which country is the world leader in that business…
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> Cheers,
> Nathan
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> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
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> YNWA
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>> On 10 Dec 2015, at 05:51, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Strange name for a camera dealer. Does he deal in watches as well?
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
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>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 3:17 AM, BRUCE <bruceslomovitz at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Approximately a week ago I asked if any members had experience purchasing
>>> Leica gear from Hong Kong.
>>> 
>>> I realize that there are numerous Hong Kong vendors with eBay stores. I
>>> chose to buy an M-P (240) from BreguetCamera in Hong Kong.
>>> 
>>> I bought my item on the 2nd and received it on the 7th via USPS. The item
>>> was well packed and in perfect condition. It had also never been opened. I
>>> do believe in supporting our U.S. Leica vendors whenever possible. But the
>>> circumstances in this case led me to buy from Breguet. I would buy from
>>> them again without hesitation. I saved hundreds of dollars. So to me, it's
>>> worth doing if conditions favor it for you.
>>> 
>>> Bruce R. Slomovitz
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