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Subject: [Leica] LUG yearbook
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 14:20:53 -0700
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HI TINA DEAR LADY!
Thank you Tina,'THANKYOU!THANKYOU thankyou!!
OK now I know what it is, the things that sort of make circles look better 
or not. ;-)
It can be extremely helpful in some circumstances and it can be a horrid 
distraction due to make of lens and size, types? As well as the lens make 
creates.
I think one year sitting on the back porch at the "LEICA SEMINAR AT 
KENNEBUNKPORT?" you and I talked about this for several minutes however? 
being a slow information male when it comes to "details?" I'm just going to 
say before anyone else does?
"I.VE FORGOTTEN WHAT YOU TAUGHT ME!!" :-)

However I've made and am making notes on all the new things in photography 
I'm learning in my 90th year learning moments! For if I don't?
The information is here today and "gone tomorrow due to my failing forgetful 
mind!" OH WELL! :-( At LEAST I NOW KNOW WHAT "BOHEK" IS ABOUT. THANKYOU.
cheers,
Dr. ted Grant o.c.


-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of Tina Manley via LUG
Sent: September-26-19 1:26 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Tina Manley
Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG yearbook

Ted -

Bokeh is the out of focus area of the photograph.  Depending on the lens,
the bokeh can be very good or awful.  Leica lenses usually have great
bokeh.  Some mirror lenses give annoying circles in the bokeh which take
your attention away from what should be the focus of the photo.  Some bokeh
is swirly looking and makes me dizzy!!

It's always been there, you've just never called it bokeh before!!

Tina

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:18 PM Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> I HAD TO ANSWER YOUR POST FOR SURE, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF YOUR CLOSING
> COMMENT! :-)
>
> ""How's the bokeh on that lens"? "Don't know don't care""  :-)
>
> I LOVE IT SIMPLY BECAUSE IN ALL MY YEARS OF USING LEICA'S AND SEEN
> MESSAGES ABOUT "BOKEH" ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT? I THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO
> WITH GRAIN/ sharpness???????????? OR WHATEVER?????
> A REASONABLE NUMBER OF MY PHOTOS HAVE BEEN BLOWN UP TO 30"= 40" INCHES FOR
> EXHIBITIONS IN CANADIAN EMBASSIES ABOUT THE WORLD. NOBODY
> COMPLAINED???????? BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ANY BOHEK?
> I FIGURE A PHOTOGRAPHER HAS ENOUGH TO BE CONCERENED ABOUT WHEN CAPTURING
> THE MAGIC MOMENT, THAN FIDDILING ABOUT "WHATEVER BOHEK IS AS THE "BABY IS
> ARRIVING IN THE OPEN WORLD!"
> OR THE BRIDE IS WEARING HER MOST BEAUTIFUL SMILE OF THE DAY!
> OH YEAH? WHAT IS THIS "BOKEH THING ANYWAY?" AND WHERE IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE
> FOUND IN A PHOTO OF ANY SIZE FROM 4X6 TO 30X40???
> PLEASE WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO DO ME A FAVOUR AND EXPLAIN TO ME "with simple
> language?" BY RETURN MAIL! WHAT IT IS? AND HOW DOES IT MAKE OR BREAK A
> BEAUTIFUL CAPTURED MOMENT?????? THANKYOU VERY KINDLY.
> CHEERS
> Dr. ted grant O.C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: September-23-19 8:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG yearbook
>
> Ted! A nice post to read. You've been my main mentor for a couple of
> decades now if you knew it or not and on this post I do agree with every
> tiny detail of what you're saying here tech wise and other wise.
> One key thing I hope people notice you're saying here is that you stop
> down a reasonable about to get depth of field.
> Many  people here seem to feel like they've got to open the thing all the
> way all the time or the heavens will rain fire down upon them, then don't
> get their focus.  Lots of bokeh though.
> When they read that you stop down they won't be afraid to do it themselves.
> Me, I'm at f5.6 on wides and f8 as a default on normal and tele's kind a
> guy. Day or night. That way I just might actually get the thing in focus.
> And a few other things too.   Always nice. Some things you can't reshoot. I
> don?t mind getting every little thing in focus front to back.
> "How's the bokeh on that lens"? "Don't know don't care".
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> ?On 9/23/19, 9:27 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ted Grant via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>     Hi Sonny & CREW,
>     YOU BET, EVEN WHEN THESE DAYS I ONLY HAVE A CANON 450D SLR AND 1 ZOOM
> LENS.
>     BUT I STILL HAVE MY ONE & ONLY LEICA M8 BODY quite often hanging on my
> neck
>     or shoulder as my "walker" and I MAKE OUR WAY ABOUT THE "OLD FOLKS
> HOME!"
>     ABOUT 200 FOLKS!
>     ALL AVAILABLE LIGHT IMAGES. AN F1.00, 50MM NOCTILUX LEICA LENS,PLUS
> SEVERAL
>     OTHERS.
>     AND A SPECIAL 15MM f.4/5 VOIGTLANDER super-wide adapted for MY LEICA
> M8 35MM
>     CAMERA THAT WORKS LIKE A DREAM!
>     USUALLY I SET THE APERATURE FOR A REASONABLE DEPTH OF FIELD AND USE IT
> MUCH
>     LIKE AN AUTO-FOCUS LENS===ONLY QUICKER.:-) YEA I LOSE THE ODD ONE! :-)
>     I have my camera bag, both cameras & lenses with me dawn to dusk as I
> travel
>     about my huge senior's home every day. Some days my M8 is almost
> smoking as
>     I Happy Snap my WAY INDOORS AND OUT DOORS!
>     DO I BLOW ANY????????????? YOU BET! SURE! HOWEVER, AT MY 90 YEAR OLD
> BODY
>     AND ONE GOOD EYE ONLY! WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
>     BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT? I'D DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN (70 YEARS CLICKING FROM
> DAY
>     ONE START.) CLICKING ALL THE WAY! UNTIL MY 100TH BIRTHDAY! IN 9 YEARS!
>     1.MAKE THE 100 YEARS, EVEN MORE SO?
>     HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE! ONE DAY AT A TIME!!
>     CHEERS,
>     Dr.ted grant O.C.
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf Of
>     Sonny Carter via LUG
>     Sent: September-23-19 12:15 PM
>     To: Leica Users Group
>     Cc: Sonny Carter
>     Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG yearbook
>
>     My Sony may not be Leica inspired, but my shooting certainly is!
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Sonny
>     http://sonc.com/look/
>     Natchitoches, Louisiana
>     1714
>     Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>
>     USA
>
>
>     On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 2:07 PM Duane Birkey via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
>     wrote:
>
>     > I totally respect whatever decision is made as far as equipment
>     > qualifications to be included in the yearbook...   I see all sides...
>     >  Focusing on imagery vs equipment used vs both.
>     >
>     > All my Leica gear is film-based...   so I would have to be very
>     > intentional about taking it out with me when I go shooting...
>     >
>     > I like to think that my Canon gear is Leica Inspired...     Does that
>     > count?    : )
>     >
>     > Alternatively...   we could put an asterisk next to non-Leica
> photos....
>     >  or only list Leica gear...     I.E.   M10 w/50 Summicron    vs *
> w/50
>     > Summicron  vs **
>     >
>     > Keep smiling,
>     >
>     > Duane Birkey
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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