[Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

[sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)]

Leica does strange things because it is possible.

Snapshot mode was probably designed for those folks who want to own a
Leica, but don't care to learn anything about cameras.   You still have to
focus, and you still need to set the aperture, so I suppose some users are
dismayed when the image comes back over-exposed and out of focus

Other Leica weird:  Video mode, also  "Live View" that you need to buy a
$500 clamp-on viewfinder to use.

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Leica does strange things because it is possible.
>
> Snapshot mode was probably designed for those folks who want to own a
> Leica, but don't care to learn anything about cameras.   You still have to
> focus, and you still need to set the aperture, so I suppose some users are
> dismayed when the image comes back over-exposed and out of focus
>
> Other Leica weird:  Video mode, also  "Live View" that you need to buy a
> $500 clamp-on viewfinder to use.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:47 PM, bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at 
> yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> That's good advice Sonny, thanks for passing it on! Seems the only sure
>> way to eliminate a possible problem.
>> Am finding it hard to understand the purpose of the Leica 'Snapshot
>> Profile mode'. Why use a Leica to shoot only JPEGs?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
>> *To:* bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 22:14
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>
>> According to Overgaard:
>>
>>  "When you have saved no user profiles, the only available choice is the
>> " - " (no profile). If you don't have any specific use for User profiles, 
>> I
>> recommend you don't define any."
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, bob catchpole via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>
>> It's good to know conclusively that in 'Snapshot Profile mode' the camera
>> only shoots JPEGs. Which, for me, is plent reason to avoid ever
>> accidentally using it!
>> Nathan says "It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves
>> several actions, not just pressing a button." I've just checked and sadly
>> that's not the case.
>>
>> Here's what happened. I created a user profile ('Bob') and photographed
>> for a couple of hours. At some point, when maybe I changed the ISO 
>> setting,
>> the camera exited the user profile (since it no longer conformed to the
>> 'Bob' profile settings). At the time I wasn't aware of this, which wasn't 
>> a
>> problem since I was aware of the camera settings.
>>
>> However, later, when I pressed SET I noticed at the bottom where before
>> it said 'Set user profile... Bob' it now said 'Set user profile... -'
>> (blank). I now realised the camera wasn't using the 'Bob' profile. I
>> highlighted that line and pressed SET to have a look at the profiles menu
>> to maybe re-set the Bob' profile.
>>
>> This was the danger moment! And a real flaw as far as I'm concerned! By
>> default 'Snapshot Profile' is selected at the top of the list. In that
>> moment I decided I didn't want to set a profile and continue as I'd been
>> doing, and just exit the menu. To exit you have to press the shutter
>> button. But if you accidentally press the SET button (so easy to do!)
>> you're in trouble because now you're in the dreaded 'Snapshot Profile 
>> mode'.
>> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>> Profile mode? Unfortunately the answer seems to be 'Yes'.
>>    Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
>> can't be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? I'd 
>> love
>> to know, but am not optimistic.
>>
>> By the way, I think the presentation and explanation of the Snapshot
>> Profile in the M-E manual is appalling bad and unworthy of Leica. I didn't
>> understand what they were on about, which is why I came here for help.
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>       From: photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>  To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>  Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 17:10
>>  Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, and to demonstrate the usefulness of looking in the
>> manual, I looked up the M9 manual and there (on p. 103) it is stated that
>> in
>> snapshot mode, quality is set to JPG Fine.
>>
>> The instruction manual further explains (p. 141) how to set the snapshot
>> mode.
>> It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several
>> actions, not
>> just pressing a button.
>>
>> Once again, I maintain that reading the manual would have provided the
>> original
>> poster with the answers he needed.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> >
>> >    Op 24 mei 2016 om 16:16 schreef Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at 
>> > gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> >    Looks like the snapshot mode is not addressed in the M-E
>> instructions.
>> >
>> >    If you don't set any user profiles, then you will not take a chance
>> of
>> >    entering the snapshot mode. (That's why so few of us have any
>> experience
>> >    with the mode.)
>> >
>> >    I don't have my M9 nearby, but from what I read, it seems you may
>> still
>> >    have the option to shoot DNG with Snapshot mode.
>> >
>> >    Leica M9 brochure: "In snapshot mode, the M9 automatically sets as
>> many
>> >    settings as possible, thus providing a valuable aid to spontaneous
>> and
>> >    discreet photography."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >    On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, bob catchpole via LUG
>> > <lug at leica-users.org>
>> >    wrote:
>> >
>> >    > Thanks for your comments Philippe. Much appreciated, as I'm new to
>> the
>> >    > list and to the Leica M-E.
>> >    > I hoped my questions would be easy for folks on the list. John now
>> says
>> >    > it's "impossible to give definite answers."
>> >    > Question 1: In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot
>> >    > JPEGs?
>> >    > Yes or no? That's pretty definite. Anyone know?
>> >    >
>> >    > Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the
>> Snapshot
>> >    > Profile mode? Yes or no? Has it happened to anyone on the list?
>> >    >
>> >    > Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
>> >    > can't
>> >    > be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? Yes
>> or no?
>> >    > Anybody know?
>> >    > Thanks,Bob
>> >    >
>> >    >
>> >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>> >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group 
>> > <
>> >    > lug at leica-users.org>
>> >    > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 13:37
>> >    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>> >    >
>> >    > Impossible to give definitive answers as we all work differently,
>> not
>> >    > aware of anybody on this list accidently getting their M9 into
>> snapshot
>> >    > mode.... In fact, as there are (thankfully) so few options I doubt
>> many
>> >    > use
>> >    > more than a single profile, if that.....
>> >    >
>> >    > john
>> >    >
>> >    > -----Original Message-----
>> >    >
>> >    > John,
>> >    > Your comments suggest you're not exactly best placed to offer
>> conclusive
>> >    > answers! It would be good if others with personal knowledge and
>> >    > experience
>> >    > of the issue could respond.
>> >    > I'm disappointed to find a Leica camera accommodating a feature
>> like the
>> >    > Snapshot Profile mode. It would damage my photography, but seems
>> easy to
>> >    > slip into accidentally. Can it be permanently disabled?
>> >    >
>> >    > Bob
>> >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>> >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group 
>> > <
>> >    > lug at leica-users.org>
>> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 17:00
>> >    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>> >    >
>> >    > If it is similar to the M9 (never used an M-E) then there should
>> be no
>> >    > danger of entering snapshot mode, never done it in nearly six
>> years of
>> >    > M9
>> >    > ownership ;-)
>> >    >
>> >    > 1) Never felt the urge to find out what it does....
>> >    > 2) Doubt it
>> >    > 3) Never needed it
>> >    >
>> >    > john
>> >    >
>> >    > -----Original Message-----
>> >    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] 
>> > On
>> >    > Behalf
>> >    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
>> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 4:34 p.m.
>> >    > To: John McMaster; lug at leica-users.org
>> >    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>> >    >
>> >    > Hi John,
>> >    > Thanks for the link, unfortunately the thread is rather confused
>> and the
>> >    > concluding comments not very re-assuring. I don't feel my 3
>> questions
>> >    > have
>> >    > been answered, I hope others on the list will be able to
>> help.Thanks,Bob
>> >    >
>> >    >
>> >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>> >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group 
>> > <
>> >    > lug at leica-users.org>
>> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 15:34
>> >    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>> >    >
>> >    > Hi Bob, the last comment on this thread?
>> >    >
>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/122980-how-to-deactivate-the-snapshot-mode-on-the-m9/
>> >    >
>> >    > john
>> >    >
>> >    > -----Original Message-----
>> >    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] 
>> > On
>> >    > Behalf
>> >    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
>> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 2:31 p.m.
>> >    > To: lug at leica-users.org
>> >    > Subject: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>> >    >
>> >    > Hello list,
>> >    > I've just started using a digital Leica, the M-E. My questions are
>> about
>> >    > the Snapshot Profile mode, which I'd personally like to have as
>> little
>> >    > to
>> >    > do with as possible!
>> >    > 1) In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot JPEGs?
>> >    > 2) Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>> Profile
>> >    > mode?
>> >    > 3) Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't be
>> >    > switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled?
>> >    > Thanks,Bob
>> >    >
>> >    >
>> >    >
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