Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Bob, Now that is a beautiful image. Sue Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > > I can't logically argue with you Jayanand. But I have a Fuji and switching > between the Fuji and the M is really difficult for me. With the M I point > and shoot, basically. After using Ms for over 20 years, I don't think about > what I'm doing: I just look and point. > With the Fuji, it's just difficult! And since I have all this expensive > stuff, I need to use it. I love using it!! Though I miss some shots and > some may not be perfectly focused, when I hit it I love it: > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/rgacpa_HI/Bedtime+Story-2015-04-25.jpg.html > > So I can't answer your question other then I just adore shooting my Leica! > So it goes... :-) > > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at > gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Bob, >> Why shoot moving grandkids with this stuff, it seems to be overkill. Just >> get a Fuji x100 or a Panasonic LX100 or something equivalent for that >> purpose! >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ken, >>> >>> The real issue with live view on the Leica is that it opens the >> mechanical >>> shutter when you start live view. Then, when you depress the shutter >>> release button, the Leica closes the mechanical shutter and then fires >>> (opens and closes) the shutter. It's a really big lag IMO. And it doubles >>> the shutter actuations >>> >>> Here's my working theories: >>> 1. The rangefinder mechanism on MY M240 is amazing. That would be the >>> primary reason to get the MM 2 over the MM 1 (the second reason being the >>> noticeably smoother shutter: the M9 chassis has a noticeable shutter >> kick). >>> The M240's rangefinder is greatly improved over the M9 and has held its >>> accuracy for as long as I've owned the camera. It's spot on >>> >>> HOWEVER.... When I shoot handheld wide open and close, even a slight >>> movement by my head will change the focal point, especially on the f/1 >> and >>> f/1.4 50mm lenses and the 75 f/2. So I geek: move my neck back and forth >>> while shooting trying to get it right. Especially hard with my moving >>> grandkids. Shutter lag simply defeats the accuracy of any type of >> focusing >>> with these apertures at close distance: using the rangefinder really >> helps >>> because of its tiny lag. >>> >>> 2. With landscapes I tend to do the same thing with my M as I do with my >>> larger system. Focus as best I can, through the viewfinder (and sometimes >>> live view) and then fine tune by using the image review function where I >>> can move the magnified portion around on the screen. With my larger >> system, >>> I am looking at the RAW file: with the M I'm looking at the on screen >> jpeg. >>> >>> Does that make sense? >>> Bob >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Bob, >>>> >>>> Here is a Leica-rookie question. I have seen numerous posts about >> users >>>> sending bodies and lenses back to Leica to calibrate, to avoid back and >>>> front focus issues. Is this what live view is intended to avoid? I >> know >>>> even my SLR's have focus issues if I don't calibrate the lenses with >>>> in-camera software. If there is not an issue with matching bodies and >>>> lenses, yes I would prefer to have rangefinder focus (my last Leica >> long >>>> ago was an M3 with a 35mm Summicron, where it was difficult to make a >>> focus >>>> error though I succeeded at times). Thx for some enlightenment. >>>> >>>> Ken >>>> >>>>> On 5/24/2015 5:29 PM, Bob Adler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Honestly I find live view useless as implemented in the M240. >> Completely >>>>> useless because of the unbelievable shutter lag for non-landscape >> images >>>>> and inability to move the magnified area of the view around to check >>> focus >>>>> for landscape work. >>>>> >>>>> For the decisive moment you will need to anticipate an additional 1/2 >>> sec >>>>> or more in advance. For landscapes you will need to reframe after >>> focusing. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I never use live view. But I own no R lenses which it may >>>>> actually be useful for per others' experiences I have read. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Bob-The -Grump >>>>> >>>>> Bob Adler >>>>> Robert Adler Photography >>>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com >>>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2015, at 12:32 PM, George Lottermoser < >>>>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Live view certainly is what keeps me dreaming about the "upgrade;" >>>>>> while feeling quite satisfied with the "high ISO" of the MM I. >>>>>> >>>>>> a note off the iPad, George >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 24, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Doug Herr < >> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The significant upgrade is live view. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doug Herr >>>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>>>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: May 24, 2015 8:51 AM >>>>>>>> To: Douglas Nygren <douglasnygren at yahoo.com>, Leica Users Group < >>>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Monochrome results >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good writeup here by Erwin Puts. Doesn't seem to be worth the $$... >>>>>>>> Better >>>>>>>> value with the MM-I >>>>>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/camera/styled-50/ >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bob Adler >>> www.robertadlerphotography.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > Bob Adler > www.robertadlerphotography.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information