Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You prove, in your response, both my statements to be true! Thank you Chris. :'-D Bob Adler Robert Adler Photography www.robertadlerphotography.com > On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Chris Crawford <chris at > chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: > > Bob, I stated a fact. His view is bigoted and it is historically > unsupported. Sorry you?re too ?moronic? (talk about vile name calling!) to > understand that. > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-437-8990 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > Become a fan on Facebook > > > > > >> On 3/22/15, 9:05 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I don't think you will ever convince anyone, Chris, by starting a debate >> with vile name calling. This is a lesson that you seem too moronic to >> learn. >> Bob >> >> Bob Adler >> Robert Adler Photography >> www.robertadlerphotography.com >> >>> On Mar 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Chris Crawford >>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >>> >>> Larry, that?s a bigoted and historically unsupportable view. >>> Photographers >>> have combined images to make totally conceptual scenes since the 19th >>> century, most famously by Jerry Uelsmann starting in the 1960s and >>> continuing to the present day. Ansel Adams famously stated that the >>> negative was like a musical score, a starting point that the artist uses >>> to produce the final performance (the print). >>> >>> Art and photography are most certainly NOT two different media. >>> Photography is an art media, one of many, including painting, sculpture, >>> ceramics, drawing, and graphic printmaking (eg. Etching, lithography). >>> There is a lot of overlap, these are not absolutely separate art forms. >>> The painter, sculptor and printmaker incorporate drawing into their >>> work. >>> The printmaker can transfer photos to the etching plate. Photographers >>> can >>> paint and draw on the photo, or manipulate it on the computer, and >>> computer graphics can be purely drawing without using photos. >>> >>> -- >>> Chris Crawford >>> Fine Art Photography >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>> 260-437-8990 >>> >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >>> Become a fan on Facebook >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 3/22/15, 4:39 PM, "Larry Zeitlin via LUG" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I just came back from the Westchester Photo Show where four of my >>>> older >>>> photographs were hung. They stood out like sore thumbs. Not because >>>> they >>>> were inferior but because they were different. All of mine were street >>>> photos or pseudo street photos, slices of life taken in my usual >>>> adventitious manner. Several were in my LUG gallery and were taken on >>>> film. I'd be the first to admit that they are not great pictures but >>>> they >>>> were a sample of my photographic endeavors. >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Cook.jpeg.html >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Coppersmith.jpg.html >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/The+valve+room.jpg.html >>>> Most of the other pictures exhibited were carefully posed, highly >>>> processed images which tried to emulate fine art. I've always believed, >>>> as have most Luggers, that art and photography are two different media, >>>> each with its advantages and disadvantages. An artist can take time to >>>> pose the subject appropriately, choose colors, and accentuate what he >>>> or >>>> she chooses. It is a contemplative and imaginative medium. Photography, >>>> on the other hand, is ideal for catching slices of life which may >>>> vanish >>>> in a fraction of a second.?It is a realistic and immediate medium. >>>> What was most interesting is that several exhibiting photographers >>>> maintained that the original image was not the end in itself but merely >>>> the starting point for intensive manipulation in Photoshop. Indeed, >>>> some >>>> of the pictures were so significantly altered that they bore little >>>> resemblence to the actual scene. Colors were changed, portions of the >>>> image were accentuated or eliminated. The worst case, in my opinion, >>>> was >>>> a photograph which combined several individual photos in one displayed >>>> image. Just like the Russian Mayday podium pictures. >>>> I'm coming to believe that exhibited photos should bear a warning >>>> label, >>>> like foodstuffs, noting if any artificial ingredients were used in the >>>> presentation. >>>> Larry Z >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information