Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I don't think you will ever convince anyone, Chris, by starting a debate with vile name calling. This is a lesson that you seem too moronic to learn. Bob Bob Adler Robert Adler Photography www.robertadlerphotography.com > On Mar 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Chris Crawford <chris at > chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: > > Larry, that?s a bigoted and historically unsupportable view. Photographers > have combined images to make totally conceptual scenes since the 19th > century, most famously by Jerry Uelsmann starting in the 1960s and > continuing to the present day. Ansel Adams famously stated that the > negative was like a musical score, a starting point that the artist uses > to produce the final performance (the print). > > Art and photography are most certainly NOT two different media. > Photography is an art media, one of many, including painting, sculpture, > ceramics, drawing, and graphic printmaking (eg. Etching, lithography). > There is a lot of overlap, these are not absolutely separate art forms. > The painter, sculptor and printmaker incorporate drawing into their work. > The printmaker can transfer photos to the etching plate. Photographers can > paint and draw on the photo, or manipulate it on the computer, and > computer graphics can be purely drawing without using photos. > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-437-8990 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > Become a fan on Facebook > > > >> On 3/22/15, 4:39 PM, "Larry Zeitlin via LUG" <lug at leica-users.org> >> wrote: >> >> I just came back from the Westchester Photo Show where four of my older >> photographs were hung. They stood out like sore thumbs. Not because they >> were inferior but because they were different. All of mine were street >> photos or pseudo street photos, slices of life taken in my usual >> adventitious manner. Several were in my LUG gallery and were taken on >> film. I'd be the first to admit that they are not great pictures but they >> were a sample of my photographic endeavors. >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Cook.jpeg.html >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Coppersmith.jpg.html >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/The+valve+room.jpg.html >> Most of the other pictures exhibited were carefully posed, highly >> processed images which tried to emulate fine art. I've always believed, >> as have most Luggers, that art and photography are two different media, >> each with its advantages and disadvantages. An artist can take time to >> pose the subject appropriately, choose colors, and accentuate what he or >> she chooses. It is a contemplative and imaginative medium. Photography, >> on the other hand, is ideal for catching slices of life which may vanish >> in a fraction of a second.?It is a realistic and immediate medium. >> What was most interesting is that several exhibiting photographers >> maintained that the original image was not the end in itself but merely >> the starting point for intensive manipulation in Photoshop. Indeed, some >> of the pictures were so significantly altered that they bore little >> resemblence to the actual scene. Colors were changed, portions of the >> image were accentuated or eliminated. The worst case, in my opinion, was >> a photograph which combined several individual photos in one displayed >> image. Just like the Russian Mayday podium pictures. >> I'm coming to believe that exhibited photos should bear a warning >> label, >> like foodstuffs, noting if any artificial ingredients were used in the >> presentation. >> Larry Z >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information