Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Bob, I stated a fact. His view is bigoted and it is historically unsupported. Sorry you?re too ?moronic? (talk about vile name calling!) to understand that. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-437-8990 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 Become a fan on Facebook On 3/22/15, 9:05 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >I don't think you will ever convince anyone, Chris, by starting a debate >with vile name calling. This is a lesson that you seem too moronic to >learn. >Bob > >Bob Adler >Robert Adler Photography >www.robertadlerphotography.com > >> On Mar 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Chris Crawford >><chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >> >> Larry, that?s a bigoted and historically unsupportable view. >>Photographers >> have combined images to make totally conceptual scenes since the 19th >> century, most famously by Jerry Uelsmann starting in the 1960s and >> continuing to the present day. Ansel Adams famously stated that the >> negative was like a musical score, a starting point that the artist uses >> to produce the final performance (the print). >> >> Art and photography are most certainly NOT two different media. >> Photography is an art media, one of many, including painting, sculpture, >> ceramics, drawing, and graphic printmaking (eg. Etching, lithography). >> There is a lot of overlap, these are not absolutely separate art forms. >> The painter, sculptor and printmaker incorporate drawing into their >>work. >> The printmaker can transfer photos to the etching plate. Photographers >>can >> paint and draw on the photo, or manipulate it on the computer, and >> computer graphics can be purely drawing without using photos. >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-437-8990 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> Become a fan on Facebook >> >> >> >>> On 3/22/15, 4:39 PM, "Larry Zeitlin via LUG" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>wrote: >>> >>> I just came back from the Westchester Photo Show where four of my >>>older >>> photographs were hung. They stood out like sore thumbs. Not because >>>they >>> were inferior but because they were different. All of mine were street >>> photos or pseudo street photos, slices of life taken in my usual >>> adventitious manner. Several were in my LUG gallery and were taken on >>> film. I'd be the first to admit that they are not great pictures but >>>they >>> were a sample of my photographic endeavors. >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Cook.jpeg.html >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/Coppersmith.jpg.html >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Larry+Z/The+valve+room.jpg.html >>> Most of the other pictures exhibited were carefully posed, highly >>> processed images which tried to emulate fine art. I've always believed, >>> as have most Luggers, that art and photography are two different media, >>> each with its advantages and disadvantages. An artist can take time to >>> pose the subject appropriately, choose colors, and accentuate what he >>>or >>> she chooses. It is a contemplative and imaginative medium. Photography, >>> on the other hand, is ideal for catching slices of life which may >>>vanish >>> in a fraction of a second.?It is a realistic and immediate medium. >>> What was most interesting is that several exhibiting photographers >>> maintained that the original image was not the end in itself but merely >>> the starting point for intensive manipulation in Photoshop. Indeed, >>>some >>> of the pictures were so significantly altered that they bore little >>> resemblence to the actual scene. Colors were changed, portions of the >>> image were accentuated or eliminated. The worst case, in my opinion, >>>was >>> a photograph which combined several individual photos in one displayed >>> image. Just like the Russian Mayday podium pictures. >>> I'm coming to believe that exhibited photos should bear a warning >>>label, >>> like foodstuffs, noting if any artificial ingredients were used in the >>> presentation. >>> Larry Z >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information