Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On the box though... Its always the box.. On 9/11/13 9:06 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote: > My Bessa R2a is stamped "COSINA CO., LTD" . Voigtlander on the top, no > mention of Germany anywhere. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > > On 9/11/2013 7:58 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >> Even if they did buy the Voigtlander name, as I recall the camera bodies >> are >> stamped "Voigtlander Germany". That seems deliberately misleading. >> >> Jeffery >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >>> One of my little problems with Cosina which itched in the craw in the >>> background was they never wanted to put their name on their own products >>> like they used to in the 60's. Was that the dad? A Cosina SLR was a >>> quite >>> nice option to Minolta or Mamiya or Miranda or Yashica. Nobody >>> complained. >>> Nobody said "not don't use your own name for gods sake use German ones >>> instead you'll make more money" >>> >>> As a person who is very familiar with what a Voigtl?nder or Zeiss product >>> looks like and feels like and what they do it went down funny as the >>> lack of >>> integrity behind the whole thing is really just odd. I mean why use your >>> own name when you can buy someone's better? I can think of a few. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/11/13 8:04 PM, "Jefffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I think the first Cosina things out were a Bessa L (with horrific >>>> shutter >>>> vibration) and some non-coupled ultrawides like the 12, 15, and 25. They >>>> did >>>> seem to be saying that they didn't wish to compete with Leica, but did. >>>> And >>>> in >>>> the long run they may have rejuvenated enough interest in rangefinders >>>> to >>>> ultimately benefit Leica. Like marijuana leading to "the hard stuff", >>>> they >>>> definitely gave a lot of people the rangefinder bug. I would have never >>>> ventured into the LUG had I not heard about it in one of Stephen Gandy's >>>> forums (RF or CVUG). >>>> >>>> Jeffery >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My memory is it was a 75mm lens they started with which they promised >>>>> would >>>>> be the last Leica lens they'd make they had no intention of competing >>>>> with >>>>> Leica. Then they came out with a body. Then a wide. Though I'm really >>>>> a >>>>> capitalist and am all for competition and feel positive about most of >>>>> the >>>>> output of the Cosina company and its alternate lower price point and >>>>> have >>>>> and use some of their stuff, glass and bodies In both my Leica M, LTM >>>>> and >>>>> also my Nikon DSLR systems. Also some of the Cosina stuff shows some >>>>> imagination that Leica didn't have. Compact slower optics as Leica was >>>>> coming out with metal munching high speed monsters with a price tag >>>>> which >>>>> reads like a house down payment. >>>>> Though in many cases glass wise I'd rather go with an older Leica from >>>>> a >>>>> previous decade as resolution and contrast is not such a big thing for >>>>> me >>>>> all the time with digital. >>>>> >>>>> I like the idea more of glass being the best it can be in 1960 more >>>>> than >>>>> glass made in 2013 dumbed down to fit the money pocketbooks of the >>>>> consuming >>>>> masses. >>>>> And I like Nickel and brass more than I like aluminum and plastic. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/11/13 5:52 PM, "Jefffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My recollection is that Cosina ultrawides piqued interest in people >>>>>> who >>>>>> couldn't justify paying for a Leica ultrawide. I'm not sure I can >>>>>> justify >>>>>> paying for a Cosina ultrawide; I just don't use them any more. I do >>>>>> remember >>>>>> when digital was sort of a verboten subject on the LUG. These days, >>>>>> digital >>>>>> is >>>>>> the norm on the LUG. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm glad that this group is still hanging in there, even if they don't >>>>>> always >>>>>> use Leica. I quit the Pentax forum because (1) it often didn't involve >>>>>> Pentax, >>>>>> and (2) it often didn't even involve photography. That's a bad >>>>>> combination. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeffery >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>> Photographer >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photographer >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/