Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]My Bessa R2a is stamped "COSINA CO., LTD" . Voigtlander on the top, no mention of Germany anywhere. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA On 9/11/2013 7:58 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: > Even if they did buy the Voigtlander name, as I recall the camera bodies > are stamped "Voigtlander Germany". That seems deliberately misleading. > > Jeffery > > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >> One of my little problems with Cosina which itched in the craw in the >> background was they never wanted to put their name on their own products >> like they used to in the 60's. Was that the dad? A Cosina SLR was a quite >> nice option to Minolta or Mamiya or Miranda or Yashica. Nobody >> complained. >> Nobody said "not don't use your own name for gods sake use German ones >> instead you'll make more money" >> >> As a person who is very familiar with what a Voigtl?nder or Zeiss product >> looks like and feels like and what they do it went down funny as the lack >> of >> integrity behind the whole thing is really just odd. I mean why use your >> own name when you can buy someone's better? I can think of a few. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9/11/13 8:04 PM, "Jefffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think the first Cosina things out were a Bessa L (with horrific shutter >>> vibration) and some non-coupled ultrawides like the 12, 15, and 25. They >>> did >>> seem to be saying that they didn't wish to compete with Leica, but did. >>> And in >>> the long run they may have rejuvenated enough interest in rangefinders to >>> ultimately benefit Leica. Like marijuana leading to "the hard stuff", >>> they >>> definitely gave a lot of people the rangefinder bug. I would have never >>> ventured into the LUG had I not heard about it in one of Stephen Gandy's >>> forums (RF or CVUG). >>> >>> Jeffery >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My memory is it was a 75mm lens they started with which they promised >>>> would >>>> be the last Leica lens they'd make they had no intention of competing >>>> with >>>> Leica. Then they came out with a body. Then a wide. Though I'm really a >>>> capitalist and am all for competition and feel positive about most of >>>> the >>>> output of the Cosina company and its alternate lower price point and >>>> have >>>> and use some of their stuff, glass and bodies In both my Leica M, LTM >>>> and >>>> also my Nikon DSLR systems. Also some of the Cosina stuff shows some >>>> imagination that Leica didn't have. Compact slower optics as Leica was >>>> coming out with metal munching high speed monsters with a price tag >>>> which >>>> reads like a house down payment. >>>> Though in many cases glass wise I'd rather go with an older Leica from a >>>> previous decade as resolution and contrast is not such a big thing for >>>> me >>>> all the time with digital. >>>> >>>> I like the idea more of glass being the best it can be in 1960 more than >>>> glass made in 2013 dumbed down to fit the money pocketbooks of the >>>> consuming >>>> masses. >>>> And I like Nickel and brass more than I like aluminum and plastic. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/11/13 5:52 PM, "Jefffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My recollection is that Cosina ultrawides piqued interest in people who >>>>> couldn't justify paying for a Leica ultrawide. I'm not sure I can >>>>> justify >>>>> paying for a Cosina ultrawide; I just don't use them any more. I do >>>>> remember >>>>> when digital was sort of a verboten subject on the LUG. These days, >>>>> digital >>>>> is >>>>> the norm on the LUG. >>>>> >>>>> I'm glad that this group is still hanging in there, even if they don't >>>>> always >>>>> use Leica. I quit the Pentax forum because (1) it often didn't involve >>>>> Pentax, >>>>> and (2) it often didn't even involve photography. That's a bad >>>>> combination. >>>>> >>>>> Jeffery >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photographer >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >