Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Even if they did buy the Voigtlander name, as I recall the camera bodies are stamped "Voigtlander Germany". That seems deliberately misleading. Jeffery On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > One of my little problems with Cosina which itched in the craw in the > background was they never wanted to put their name on their own products > like they used to in the 60's. Was that the dad? A Cosina SLR was a quite > nice option to Minolta or Mamiya or Miranda or Yashica. Nobody complained. > Nobody said "not don't use your own name for gods sake use German ones > instead you'll make more money" > > As a person who is very familiar with what a Voigtl?nder or Zeiss product > looks like and feels like and what they do it went down funny as the lack > of > integrity behind the whole thing is really just odd. I mean why use your > own name when you can buy someone's better? I can think of a few. > > > > > > > On 9/11/13 8:04 PM, "Jefffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think the first Cosina things out were a Bessa L (with horrific shutter >> vibration) and some non-coupled ultrawides like the 12, 15, and 25. They >> did >> seem to be saying that they didn't wish to compete with Leica, but did. >> And in >> the long run they may have rejuvenated enough interest in rangefinders to >> ultimately benefit Leica. Like marijuana leading to "the hard stuff", they >> definitely gave a lot of people the rangefinder bug. I would have never >> ventured into the LUG had I not heard about it in one of Stephen Gandy's >> forums (RF or CVUG). >> >> Jeffery >> >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >>> My memory is it was a 75mm lens they started with which they promised >>> would >>> be the last Leica lens they'd make they had no intention of competing >>> with >>> Leica. Then they came out with a body. Then a wide. Though I'm really a >>> capitalist and am all for competition and feel positive about most of the >>> output of the Cosina company and its alternate lower price point and have >>> and use some of their stuff, glass and bodies In both my Leica M, LTM and >>> also my Nikon DSLR systems. Also some of the Cosina stuff shows some >>> imagination that Leica didn't have. Compact slower optics as Leica was >>> coming out with metal munching high speed monsters with a price tag which >>> reads like a house down payment. >>> Though in many cases glass wise I'd rather go with an older Leica from a >>> previous decade as resolution and contrast is not such a big thing for me >>> all the time with digital. >>> >>> I like the idea more of glass being the best it can be in 1960 more than >>> glass made in 2013 dumbed down to fit the money pocketbooks of the >>> consuming >>> masses. >>> And I like Nickel and brass more than I like aluminum and plastic. >>> >>> >>> On 9/11/13 5:52 PM, "Jefffery Smith" <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My recollection is that Cosina ultrawides piqued interest in people who >>>> couldn't justify paying for a Leica ultrawide. I'm not sure I can >>>> justify >>>> paying for a Cosina ultrawide; I just don't use them any more. I do >>>> remember >>>> when digital was sort of a verboten subject on the LUG. These days, >>>> digital >>>> is >>>> the norm on the LUG. >>>> >>>> I'm glad that this group is still hanging in there, even if they don't >>>> always >>>> use Leica. I quit the Pentax forum because (1) it often didn't involve >>>> Pentax, >>>> and (2) it often didn't even involve photography. That's a bad >>>> combination. >>>> >>>> Jeffery >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photographer >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information