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Subject: [Leica] Untitled
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:45:15 -0500

Ok sorry!

marK


On 1/15/13 8:58 AM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> That was intended in response to Marc, sorry, not Mark. My fault for not
> observing what spell check did.
> 
> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
> On 15 January 2013 23:55, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mark that sounds pretty overblown to me. The R system stopped production
>> because not enough people bought what was offered, not because Leica
>> Camera disregarded thousands of long time R lenses users and lovers.
>> The DMR story is pretty well known I think. In the end there were a couple
>> of thousand in total actually sold. How many are still in service I don't
>> know.  I admire the enthusiasm and dedication of people like Doug or
>> Charlie who still produce great work with theirs but they were ,even when
>> new, a minority of Leica Camera's own small part of the market.
>> The R10 cancellation too is a well known story. Again the assessment was
>> that there were just not enough potential customers.
>> The M system is the reason that Leica Camera has survived and now has
>> improving fortunes.  Shortly there is to be an adapter that will allow the
>> owners of those R lenses to use them again with a new camera that will be
>> both much cheaper than the R 10 was to be , in full frame and with a 
>> modern
>> sensor and added functionality. I don't think that you have been abandoned
>> nor betrayed.
>> 
>> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
>> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 January 2013 18:48, Marc Dufour <foto at marcdufour.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Even with just half a brain, it's easy to verify Leica has disregarded
>>> thousands of long time R lenses users and lovers.
>>> It was much more than a small but solid market, and still appreciates
>>> these lenses, but doesn't care the present company, nor its
>>> future
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: lug-bounces+foto=marcdufour.net at leica-users.org [mailto:
>>> lug-bounces+foto=marcdufour.net at leica-users.org] En nombre de Mark
>>> Rabiner
>>> Enviado el: martes, 15 de enero de 2013 5:11
>>> Para: Leica Users Group
>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Untitled
>>> 
>>> I don't think Leica has destroyed anything or lost anything it was
>>> obvious to anybody with half a brain that the transition to
>>> digital for a company like Leica was not going to be smooth. Its first
>>> outs did not have the luck of the Irish behind them it could
>>> have gone better but it just didn't.  I think with the introduction of
>>> the Digital M and Monochrom Leica is solidly back on track
>>> and will win back its small but solid market slice just like it had in
>>> the 1980's and 90's.
>>> The Leica name is as  str0ng as ever (brand) they are making money hand
>>> over fist making cameras as fast as they can and doing what
>>> appears to be solid Research and development. Then years ago they were
>>> being spoken of in the past tense. I'm looking forward to
>>> getting by M glass back going in the very near future  and I doubt I'm
>>> the only one in that situation.
>>> 
>>> By the way to those who complain about how new lenses have gone through
>>> the roof. You can still buy used Leica glass from the 90's,
>>> 80's, 70's, 60's, 40's maybe even 30's with range of price points
>>> matching up with a range of quality levels.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/13/13 9:45 AM, "Marc Dufour" <foto at marcdufour.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Leica has destroyed in few years a well-deserved prestige and lost the
>>>> confidence of the most demanding photographers.
>>>> Almost a century of the best craftsmanship just wasted... by stupid
>>>> businessmen. Time to recover other values?
>>>> 
>>>> Merci pour ton commentaire!
>>>> Et amiti?s,
>>>> Marc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Photography
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>>> 
>>> 
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